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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by ZapFinch42 View Post
    Woah woah woah

    Settle down there sparky.
    I agree with you that most of Arizona' politics are absolute trash but to compare Az to Nazi Germany is uncalled for. The biggest reason being there is currently no genocide taking place in my state. Further those of us who don't agree with the state of things here are not just "going with it". We try our best to change things and in many cities like Flagstaff Tucson Bisbee things are pretty good. I might add Sedona but well they are a whole different kinda of crazy there.
    My reference to Hitlers Germany was more in the way of a metaphor not a simile. Not all comparative speech is meant to be taken literally.
    If you don't know the difference I suggest you look them up.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    And how is that relevant to anything? Does that make him less a human being in your view?
    Should it? I just find it hypocritical that one side always *****ed and yelled racist about people only calling obama black and now that he is also called white it is still racist. People need to make up their minds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Why would it matter? Do you need some context to recognize racism when you see it? Under what context would that kind of speech appeal to your better instincts? The hypocrisy here is yours. Being an apologist for racists and then attempting to deflect it on the grounds of "context" is transparent. Why on earth would you look to justify something like this unless you are sympathetic to those views?
    I'm going to respond to this despite it having nothing to do with what I actually said. Yes, context is everything. You can take just about anything out of context and it can appear bad, or good. But it is the context which shows whether there actually was something wrong or something good. For example if I said that Obama was a "nigger" then I would be a racist. If however I instead said that "Joe down the street from me said that Obama was a "nigger" that would not be me being racist, that would be Joe down the street being racist. Or for another example that I got from Washington state recently: Brown Paper Bag can be used derogatorily towards blacks, but it can also simply refer to someone that is taking thier lunch in a brown paper bag to work.

    It has nothing to do with being an "apologist for racists". It has everything to do with wanting the truth. I'm not surprised that you would have no problem ignoring context in order to further your own agenda...but I do find it interesting.

    Oh and fyi...i wasn't excusing anything in my post. I was just pointing out hypocrisy.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by ZapFinch42 View Post
    Before I waste my time with anymore of a response may I ask sawdust what your expertise in the subject of renewable energy is?
    In the interest of fairness, I am Biosystems engineer specializing in sustainable energy and resource management. I also work in conjunction with a local university that receives most of its funding from Uncle Tom.
    I'm not going to discuss biomechanical engineering with you. I ran a rather large company for thirty years. The truth is, I support the idea of alternative energy but most of what I have seen from the current administration is misplaced resources and unsound business practices in the name of alternative energy. Most of the electric cars on the road require government subsidies to be affordable. Wind energy requires a very long time to pay back the investment in equipment. Ethanol is an energy deficient process that takes a food source and turns it into a product that eats gaskets in pipelines so has to be transported by truck.

    I'm in favor of perfecting the technology but bringing the technology to market before it's ready just slows progress and puts alternative energy in a bad light. Look at what's happening in the news right now with Terry McAuliffe.

    I am more interested in the business of alternative energy than it's production though and I am sure your depth of knowledge about the science of sustainable energy is far greater than any I will ever acquire. If you want to talk about the business model of Soylindra or a Tesla turning into a brick when the battery runs dead, I'm in.

    Good luck with Uncle Tom by the way although I don't know if you want to talk about race or literature.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    You do realize you just gave a very good reason to disarm Marines when Obama is around don't you? You also misrepresented the story in the Times claiming Obama ordered a court marshal and you never acknowledged your error. I'm sorry, but your posts are sometimes . . . very comical.
    Re: Obama ordered the court martial, it came from higher up than the Commandant. Anyone above the Commandant would be the Obama administration. It was probably Valerie Jarrett's doing. With the current administration, they don't recognise or follow the established military chain of command.

    Obama has a serious problems as Commander and Chief of our military services and Obama knows it. He hasn't earned the respect of those serving in the military and he probably could care less because he doesn't respect the majority who serve in our military services today.
    Obama has on numerous times has publicly said he plans to change the face of the military. He rejects the culture, traditions and customs of our military service. He doesn't like who is serving in our military today.

    Obama has politicized the Department of Defense which is the civilian part of the military and is in the process of politicizing the uniform part of the military by lowering the standards for the Officers Corps, requiring the indoctrination of the troops in political correctness. He is in the process of dumbing down the physical standards of our military. And is using the military for social engineering experimentation which history has shown always result in soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleeding and dieing on the battlefield and even during training.

    Instead of earning the respect of the military Obama uses threats of court martials, relieving commanders of their commands and ending their military careers. No different than the incompetent platoon sergeant who has no leadership capabilities and hasn't earned the respect of the men in his platoon and uses the threat of physical force to lead.

    Disarming Marines who are six or ten miles away from where Obama will be is no way to earn the respect of the Marines. If Obama doesn't trust them, how can they trust him ?
    You may remember the incident when Leon Panetta became Secretary of Defense and visited a base in Afghanistan and all of the soldiers were disarmed in a combat zone. This is the way the Obama administration operates. A bunch of paranoid libs. They are scared of anyone who's not a liberal, progressive or socialist. There is no such thing as just an American in their thinking. Everyone is a hyphenated-American and are categorized into groups. You have to divide to accomplish your political agenda.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Re: Obama ordered the court martial, it came from higher up than the Commandant. Anyone above the Commandant would be the Obama administration. It was probably Valerie Jarrett's doing. With the current administration, they don't recognise or follow the established military chain of command.

    Obama has a serious problems as Commander and Chief of our military services and Obama knows it. He hasn't earned the respect of those serving in the military and he probably could care less because he doesn't respect the majority who serve in our military services today.
    Obama has on numerous times has publicly said he plans to change the face of the military. He rejects the culture, traditions and customs of our military service. He doesn't like who is serving in our military today.

    Obama has politicized the Department of Defense which is the civilian part of the military and is in the process of politicizing the uniform part of the military by lowering the standards for the Officers Corps, requiring the indoctrination of the troops in political correctness. He is in the process of dumbing down the physical standards of our military. And is using the military for social engineering experimentation which history has shown always result in soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleeding and dieing on the battlefield and even during training.

    Instead of earning the respect of the military Obama uses threats of court martials, relieving commanders of their commands and ending their military careers. No different than the incompetent platoon sergeant who has no leadership capabilities and hasn't earned the respect of the men in his platoon and uses the threat of physical force to lead.

    Disarming Marines who are six or ten miles away from where Obama will be is no way to earn the respect of the Marines. If Obama doesn't trust them, how can they trust him ?
    You may remember the incident when Leon Panetta became Secretary of Defense and visited a base in Afghanistan and all of the soldiers were disarmed in a combat zone. This is the way the Obama administration operates. A bunch of paranoid libs. They are scared of anyone who's not a liberal, progressive or socialist. There is no such thing as just an American in their thinking. Everyone is a hyphenated-American and are categorized into groups. You have to divide to accomplish your political agenda.
    ERRRR . . . AHHHHHH . . . . UMMMMMM . . . well I guess that makes it all OK then to misquote a source and complain about disarming Marines on one hand, while espousing the virtues of fragging in the other. And it's your politicization of everything that makes your posts comically entertaining rather than informing.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    ERRRR . . . AHHHHHH . . . . UMMMMMM . . . well I guess that makes it all OK then to misquote a source and complain about disarming Marines on one hand, while espousing the virtues of fragging in the other. And it's your politicization of everything that makes your posts comically entertaining rather than informing.
    Did not the IRS target the TEA Party ?

    Did not the Department of Defense target the "Armed Forces Tea Party" ?

    It was the Department of Defense that ordered the Marine Corps to investigate Sergant Gary Stein, a member of the "Armed Forces Tea Party."
    It was President Obama's administration who ordered the investigation.

    GOP Rep. Hunter wants Marine Corps to drop dismissal of anti-Obama sergeant - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

    >"The Marine Corps Times is reporting that Barack Obama has more than one sergeant who is critical of his performance as commander-in-chief.

    The report from the Marine newspaper comes just as the corps is trying to dismiss Sgt. Gary Stein for making unflattering comments about Obama on a personal Facebook page.

    It was in a March 26 article called "Anti-Obama Marines that the paper reported, "Stein is not alone in his disdain for the president. Published in early March, the most recent Military Times survey of active-duty service members shows the lowest approval ratings for Obama's job as commander in chief since he took office in 2009: 25 percent, down from 35 after Obama's first year on the job. And rank-and-file Marines are hearing considerably more AntiObama talk on the job than they noticed in the past."..."<

    >"Lt. Col. John Eidsmoe, a retired Air Force officer who works for former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore at the Foundation for Moral Law, said, "It is obvious that someone higher up wants to bring the military into line."

    The statement echoes that of Stein's attorney Gary Kreep with the United States Justice Foundation.

    "I don't think the Marine Corps has any intention of treating him fairly in any appeal," he said. "It's my opinion, but I believe Obama sent orders down from above to get rid of this guy."..."<

    >"...discipline is a vital part of military culture, another key part is for leaders to not surround themselves with "yes men," noting that Obama does not respond well to any criticism.

    "We have to have discipline, but in our officer training we say 'you want a subordinate officer who will tell you the truth, not what you want to hear.' We don't have that kind of commander-in-chief now." "<
    Obama gets low marks in marine survey-- G. Edwin Lint

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykes View Post
    You okay with that Black Sheep bit? How about the half-white Muslim bit, that okay with you?

    You ok with the white Hispanic George Zimmerman? What's good for the goose... As a white man myself, I prefer the president stay all black, but that's just me.



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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    You ok with the white Hispanic George Zimmerman? What's good for the goose... As a white man myself, I prefer the president stay all black, but that's just me.



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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    17 pages and not one shred of evidence that any of them belonged to the Tea Party or where even on the right. Accusations with no evidence straight up profiling. you on the left are blatant unadulterated shameless hypocrites with out one once of integrity

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