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Romney re-enters GOP fray

CanadaJohn said:
I would note, however, that listening to President Bush's cardiologist last night discussing the heart procedure GW had this week, I was suprised that the doctor indicated that stress in the Presidency wasn't so much a contributing factor because most people in high profile, powerful jobs absolutely love their job and suffer less from stress than the guy working at Walmart with no power, no say in his working conditions, and a boss he hates. It kind of rings true to me - I've often felt the more power I have in a situation, the less stress I feel.
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Having power may be a great stress reducer, but being in charge can keep you up nights. I'm sure that there are exceptions, but most people do wind down as they age. A long distance runner might love what he does, too, but still isn't likely to be winning any races at the tender age of 70 or so.

But, no doubt, there are exceptions.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Having power may be a great stress reducer, but being in charge can keep you up nights. I'm sure that there are exceptions, but most people do wind down as they age. A long distance runner might love what he does, too, but still isn't likely to be winning any races at the tender age of 70 or so.

But, no doubt, there are exceptions.
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People are living longer now, particularly people with superior health care such as a sitting President would get, and I think most Presidents don't show their age in office but once out of the limelight and no longer in control they start to deteriorate if they can't find some way to replace that power in their lives.

Bottom line, for me, Romney's not running again but his age wouldn't be a contributing factor at all - he's one of the healthiest looking late 60s guys you'll ever see. His wife's health and his having done his part are more likely to keep him out.
 
rocket88 said:
Grover Cleveland did it. Actually ran 3 times in a row, won the first and third time, but not the second.
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Yes, but in this internet driven age, I don't see that happening. Romney would be forced to deal with everything in his 2012 campaign as well as a GOP primaries and 2016 presidential election. I don't see that happening, the odds just are too much I think.
 
ocean515 said:
Who knows, but I'd be surprised if he did.

Many millions voted for him, so he does have a few ears. Offering an opinion seems reasonable without jumping to conclusions.
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Who is better suited for the job on the GOP side?
Rubio, no.
Paul, no.
Bush, no.
Christie, no.
Perry, no.
Santorum, no.
Ryan, no.
I say no to all for various reasons, but none of them can beat Hillary.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Who is better suited for the job on the GOP side?
Rubio, no.
Paul, no.
Bush, no.
Christie, no.
Perry, no.
Santorum, no.
Ryan, no.
I say no to all for various reasons, but none of them can beat Hillary.
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Well, with a billion in free advertising, Hillary will be a force. A warehouse load of nasty baggage in her name may not be enough to undo her questionable qualifications.
 
I expect the 2016 race to be run by two people whose names have not been mentioned on this thread. Who they are, I don't know, and I doubt anyone else does either at this point.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I expect the 2016 race to be run by two people whose names have not been mentioned on this thread. Who they are, I don't know, and I doubt anyone else does either at this point.
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If we knew, they'd be mentioned!
 
CanadaJohn said:
People are living longer now, particularly people with superior health care such as a sitting President would get, and I think most Presidents don't show their age in office but once out of the limelight and no longer in control they start to deteriorate if they can't find some way to replace that power in their lives.

Bottom line, for me, Romney's not running again but his age wouldn't be a contributing factor at all - he's one of the healthiest looking late 60s guys you'll ever see. His wife's health and his having done his part are more likely to keep him out.
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Yeah...I agree...he seems to be in superb health.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Who is better suited for the job on the GOP side?
Rubio, no.
Paul, no.
Bush, no.
Christie, no.
Perry, no.
Santorum, no.
Ryan, no.
I say no to all for various reasons, but none of them can beat Hillary.
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I'd be less surprised if Christie ran against Hillary in the democrat primary than I would to see Romney run again.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I expect the 2016 race to be run by two people whose names have not been mentioned on this thread. Who they are, I don't know, and I doubt anyone else does either at this point.
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Doubtful.
3 years is not enough time to mount a run from zero.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I expect the 2016 race to be run by two people whose names have not been mentioned on this thread. Who they are, I don't know, and I doubt anyone else does either at this point.
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History bears this out. Still the GOP has become so weird, so ingrown, I'm pretty sure that one of the Harpies in Chief of the tea party will get the nomination -- Palin, Bachmann, Santorum, or some equally tested freak.
 
Tigger said:
Not only would it be a mistake for him to run again, it would be a massive mistake for the GOP to even consider allowing him to do so. Mitt lost in 2012 at least in part because the Conservative/Tea Party sector of the party told the GOP that they are no longer interested in Democrat-Lite candidates, just as we had done with their candidate, Mr. McCain in 2008. If the GOP cannot get it through their heads at this point that a large portion of their voting block is NOT going to support another Moderate/Centrist/Democrat-Lite candidate then their party deserves to lose all credibility and capability to win an election.
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Actually I think the data shows the tea party weirdos pretty much voted for Romney to a man. It was normal Americans who rejected Romney for catering to the tea party's freakish ideological fetishes. And since the tea party now runs the GOP through the rightwing noise machine, that will happen again in 2016. Though the GOP will probably cut out the middle man and just nominate a subliterate weirdo like Palin who won't have to pretend to be stupid. They'll be the real deal: a tea party subliterate.
 
head of joaquin said:
History bears this out. Still the GOP has become so weird, so ingrown, I'm pretty sure that one of the Harpies in Chief of the tea party will get the nomination -- Palin, Bachmann, Santorum, or some equally tested freak.
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Not even Romney was able to prevail against a weak Democratic president. Any of the above would pretty much assure a Democrat victory, unless, of course, that party were to choose someone equally weak.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Not even Romney was able to prevail against a weak Democratic president. Any of the above would pretty much assure a Democrat victory, unless, of course, that party were to choose someone equally weak.
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You should note that Clinton couldn't beat Obama either - when the media is against you, it's hard to overcome.

It's why I think Jeb Bush will be the nominee for the Republicans and the next President - he's a decent, well spoken, level headed person with an even temperment and it will be impossible to paint him as extreme and, if Clinton is the Democrat nominee, on a stage with her, he will be the one who looks presidential, not her.
 
CanadaJohn said:
You should note that Clinton couldn't beat Obama either - when the media is against you, it's hard to overcome.

It's why I think Jeb Bush will be the nominee for the Republicans and the next President - he's a decent, well spoken, level headed person with an even temperment and it will be impossible to paint him as extreme and, if Clinton is the Democrat nominee, on a stage with her, he will be the one who looks presidential, not her.
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Romney was the only decent, well spoken, level headed person with an even temperament running on the Republican side last time. He couldn't beat Obama. Maybe Jeb Bush will, who knows?

Maybe the electorate isn't looking for someone who is all of those things, and the Republicans will nominate someone like Herman Cain or Michelle Bachmann. If that happens it's up to the Democrats to nominate someone we can get behind.

Right now, anything can happen.
 
Romney voiced some opinions. He's not running for anything ever again. Speculation over 2016 before the mid-terms is purely guessing - the future remains unclear despite claims of prescience.
 
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