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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Romney was pretty adamant that he was not going to run again. I, for one, don't look for him to go back on that declaration.

    Anyway, he's too old now.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    It is a foregone conclusion that the GOP will nominate somebody who is even more unelectable than Romney by diving into even deeper extremist waters. It will be Palin or Santorum or Issa, some freakishly unelectable creature. Once you turn the rightwing noise machine on, you can't turn it off.
    It won't be Palin, it probably will not be Santorum. Romney was largely a moderate, northeastern Republican that perceived he had to pander to the Tea Party crowd. It was unfortunate, but I think it was necessary for the election at the time. Some of his elitist remarks were ill-advised to say the least, but he also did not fight back enough to show that the rich and powerful in the country make good leaders. I still preferred Romney to the populist wing of the Republican Party, which was why I voted for him.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It won't be Palin, it probably will not be Santorum. Romney was largely a moderate, northeastern Republican that perceived he had to pander to the Tea Party crowd. It was unfortunate, but I think it was necessary for the election at the time. Some of his elitist remarks were ill-advised to say the least, but he also did not fight back enough to show that the rich and powerful in the country make good leaders. I still preferred Romney to the populist wing of the Republican Party, which was why I voted for him.
    This analysis is regrettably spot on. Romney was a decent moderate politician through most of his career. He could have won the election if he had run as the Romney who passed Romneycare. The fact that he had to lurch to the knownothing right to pander to the tea party elements (which Rove foolishly invited into the party to win a few elections) clearly lost him the election, and demonstrates how the tea party, like a golem, is destroying its own creator (something Rove is now painfully aware since he spends most of his time attacking the Palins of the world). Which of course I'm not crying any tears over. Conservatism basically signed its own demographic death warrant when it made its deal with the knownothing tea party types.

    But as to Palin, I disagree. I think by 2016 the GOP will be so marginal and so extreme that she is the most likely candidate. She is the quintessence of tea party subliteracy, which is the litmus test for the next nominee.

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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    is it unheard of for someone to run again after losing 4 years before?
    Nixon did it but he skipped an election cycle.

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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    This analysis is regrettably spot on. Romney was a decent moderate politician through most of his career. He could have won the election if he had run as the Romney who passed Romneycare. The fact that he had to lurch to the knownothing right to pander to the tea party elements (which Rove foolishly invited into the party to win a few elections) clearly lost him the election, and demonstrates how the tea party, like a golem, is destroying its own creator (something Rove is now painfully aware since he spends most of his time attacking the Palins of the world). Which of course I'm not crying any tears over. Conservatism basically signed its own demographic death warrant when it made its deal with the knownothing tea party types.

    But as to Palin, I disagree. I think by 2016 the GOP will be so marginal and so extreme that she is the most likely candidate. She is the quintessence of tea party subliteracy, which is the litmus test for the next nominee.
    We could be a bit more honest and acknowledge that you would be just as furious over moderate- Bain Capital Romney (who was not with the Tea Party), as you would with the Romney who had passing Tea Party support.

    Palin doesn't have the institutional backing to pass through the hurdles. She knew this. You're blowing hot air.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Romney will not be running for the presidency again, period - he has given much of his life to public service one way or another and a significant amount of his personal wealth. He will spend time with his ailing wife and his extended family and comment on national events as seem fit going forward.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Mitt lost because people don't care what he has to say...

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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Romney was pretty adamant that he was not going to run again. I, for one, don't look for him to go back on that declaration.

    Anyway, he's too old now.
    I don't disagree, but if you think Romney's too old, you must think the tandem of Hillary and Bill Clinton is ancient.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Mitt lost because people don't care what he has to say...
    Romney lost because the majority of Americans who voted doubled down on their stupid bet in 2008. People hate to admit their mistakes and they held out hope that a second term couldn't possibly be worse than the first. That's why Vegas loves fools who gamble.
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    Re: Romney re-enters GOP fray

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't disagree, but if you think Romney's too old, you must think the tandem of Hillary and Bill Clinton is ancient.
    I do, actually. If you were interviewing job applicants, would you think any one of them was the best candidate? There comes a time to retire. McCain was another one who simply was too old to be electable. He might have made a good candidate back in 2000, but certainly not in '08.

    The presidency is a high stress job requiring more energy than the typical septuagenarian has, and it lasts for as long as 8 years. We need to ask ourselves which candidates are actually up to the job.
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