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Ah a jpg storm. The last gasp of a dying rightwing thread that's run out of counterfactual claims that haven't been totally rebutted.
I'm not buying into it, but I believe it possible. Understand that since there's such obfuscation, the barn door is open to speculation. Somebody told our military to stand down.Well, I consider intelligence to be actually going to the source provided in the OP, see that it is a little blog that sources another little blog that sources people telling that little blog, but they are anonymous. What that means is that it is an unverified story with no evidence to back it up. That puts it into the realm of conspiracy theory, something that conservatives have proven to be more open to believing. Just accepting things as true because dammit, it is what you want to be true, that is not what I would call evidence of intelligence.
I'm not buying into it, but I believe it possible. Understand that since there's such obfuscation, the barn door is open to speculation. Somebody told our military to stand down.
All could be true. I will suspend judgement unless and until we know who actually gave the order - if anybody in the administration has the balls to admit the truth. As it looks, it's an all eunuch or female crowd running the show. The military did stand down, and somebody told them to. We'll see. Maybe.Anything is possible. Bush may have masterminded 9/11 as a justification to invade Iraq. Not worth speculating however since there is zero evidence to support it. This story is nothing more than a right wing circle jerk, getting irate at what they imagine might be possible based on all the other made up stories as justification of why it might be true.
--------------Anything is possible. Bush may have masterminded 9/11 as a justification to invade Iraq. Not worth speculating however since there is zero evidence to support it. This story is nothing more than a right wing circle jerk, getting irate at what they imagine might be possible based on all the other made up stories as justification of why it might be true.
The state department is a diplomatic agency and they don't go after weaponry. The CIA does that...and they were in Benghazi to secure a section of the city and "go after weaponry". Amb. Stevens was providing diplomatic cover. It was a classifed operation but in their zeal to stick it to Obama, the Republicans blew the CIA's cover when they showed the location of the compound on CSPAN. They put a lot of lives in jeapordy.It was a State Dept Operation before it became a CIA Operation. That was per Hillary's Testimony too. Which she stated it was to go after Gadhafi's Weapons after his ouster.
All depends on how you define what news is considered "mainstream".
It was a State Dept Operation before it became a CIA Operation. That was per Hillary's Testimony too. Which she stated it was to go after Gadhafi's Weapons after his ouster.
That article is all ate up.
Assuming that anyone in their right mind would have authorized an AC130U firing into a populated urban area of an (nominally) allied nation in the first place, a very unlikely eventuality, it would had to have been off station prior to first light due to the threat of portable surface-to-air missiles (the search for which is what had brought former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty to Lybia in the first place).
That's pretty much SOP for all AC130 missions anywhere in the world. I've read numerous accounts of them being pulled off station in both Iraq and Afghanistan due to daylight and I've heard personal accounts from guys who were on the ground fighting when it happened.
Consequently that aircraft wouldn't have been in a position to render any support to the fight on the ground at the time the insurgents (or whatever we're gonna call them) started in with their mortar attacks at the CIA annex.
A Special Forces team might have been able to render some support but you're talking about 12 guys with guns vs. a virtual sea of insurgents with heavy weapons. Our SOF are super men, but they're not Superman. I fail to see how 12 men, even 12 very, very well-trained men, would have made all that much difference.
If the aircraft had been sent it would likely have been mostly useless because there wasn't any serious sustained fighting at the annex until after sunrise and that assumes that the President would have given it permission to open fire into a civilian neighborhood.
If the SF team had been sent it's likely they would have died in place along with the former Navy SEALs.
Given the nature of that fight the author of that article is giving them far too much credit.
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You don't spend much time in the conspiracy theories forum, do you?
That may be, but I doubt that changes the CIA's secrecy.
The state department is a diplomatic agency and they don't go after weaponry. The CIA does that...and they were in Benghazi to secure a section of the city and "go after weaponry". Amb. Stevens was providing diplomatic cover. It was a classifed operation but in their zeal to stick it to Obama, the Republicans blew the CIA's cover when they showed the location of the compound on CSPAN. They put a lot of lives in jeapordy.
Is this the Hillary quote you were referring to?
"...Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified before Congress today that there is "no doubt" that the terrorists who attacked a BP facility in eastern Algeria last week were armed with weapons that slipped out of Libya, and that rounding up those weapons was one reason Americans were in Benghazi when American diplomatic facilities there were attacked, with deadly results, last September 11.
"One of the reasons that we and other government agencies were present in Benghazi was exactly that. We had a concerted effort to track down and find and recover as many MANPADS and other very dangerous weapons as possible," she said before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles. "The Pandora's Box of weapons coming out of these countries in the Middle East and North Africa is the source of one of our biggest threats. There is no doubt that the Algerian terrorists had weapons from Libya… So we just have to do a much better job." ...."
Clinton: 'No Doubt' Algeria Attackers Had Libyan Weapons - ABC News
Doug Ross @ Journal: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue in Benghazi
Confidential sources close to Conservative Report have confirmed that Valerie Jarrett was the key decision-maker for the administration, the night of the Benghazi terrorist attack on 9/11/2012.
The chronology of the evening of 9/11 are as follows:
At approximately 5 PM Washington time, reports came in through secure-channels that Special Mission Benghazi was under attack. Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey summoned the President,and briefed him on the crisis, face to face.
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This brings a whole new meaning to "I'm the decider".
Will she be getting a wing in the presidential library called Decision Points?
Forget that last post, I misunderstood your post, Unitedwestand13.
Actually many issues that, in the past, have been considered 'fringe' or 'conspiracy' are coming to the forefront as mainstream news. i. e. Big Brother is watching you.. etc.
People really need to stop talking about this, there is no conspiracy or scandal here. Get over it!
So called mainstream media has made itself a joke that is why it's an insult to be labeled as that.
But when I define fringe, it is the source of the Information, not the issue being presented.
There are some media sources, like the onion or weekly world news, that are too outlandish to be considered fact.