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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Read what you just said there.



    The CIA team was on the roof top. That's a fact.

    There was a mortar attack while they were on the roof top. That's a fact.

    The enemy walked their mortars onto the roof top (according to reporting by Jennifer Griffin of Fox News) using pretty standard "call for and adjust fire" TTPs. Thats' a fact.

    The enemy succeded in killing the CIA team using those TTPs. That's a fact.

    So one of two things happened.

    Either the CIA team was using a visible laser and that was what allowed the enemy to identify their position and call for accurate mortar fire OR the CIA team was not using a visible laser but the enemy was able to find, fix, and eliminate them nevertheless.

    If it was the former, okay, case closed.

    If it was the latter, what harm would using a visible laser have caused?

    So in terms of "using some common sense", either a visible laser was the cause or the visible laser is a non-starter.
    This is just a Hollywood esqe conspiracy theory but what if the CIA team caused all the mayhem and the UAV that was in the area took out the CIA team. :p What ifs dont mean **** generally but sometimes I like to let my mind wander and wonder. Ive heard that the place was besieged by a giant horde of angry brown people with guns but I myself havnt seen the video of that yet. Special Ops troops in Libya is an act of war and already proves we are tricky and maybe liars when it comes to US. How many more credibility hits until it turns into "CIA mortared protestors and complex" Just bring all our damn troops home lol. Lets focus on having a technology golden age and open our borders. Dont people ever get tired of just destroying, destorying, destroying with their tax dollars?
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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    That article is all ate up.

    Assuming that anyone in their right mind would have authorized an AC130U firing into a populated urban area of an (nominally) allied nation in the first place, a very unlikely eventuality, it would had to have been off station prior to first light due to the threat of portable surface-to-air missiles (the search for which is what had brought former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty to Lybia in the first place).

    That's pretty much SOP for all AC130 missions anywhere in the world. I've read numerous accounts of them being pulled off station in both Iraq and Afghanistan due to daylight and I've heard personal accounts from guys who were on the ground fighting when it happened.

    Consequently that aircraft wouldn't have been in a position to render any support to the fight on the ground at the time the insurgents (or whatever we're gonna call them) started in with their mortar attacks at the CIA annex.

    A Special Forces team might have been able to render some support but you're talking about 12 guys with guns vs. a virtual sea of insurgents with heavy weapons. Our SOF are super men, but they're not Superman. I fail to see how 12 men, even 12 very, very well-trained men, would have made all that much difference.

    If the aircraft had been sent it would likely have been mostly useless because there wasn't any serious sustained fighting at the annex until after sunrise and that assumes that the President would have given it permission to open fire into a civilian neighborhood.

    If the SF team had been sent it's likely they would have died in place along with the former Navy SEALs.

    Given the nature of that fight the author of that article is giving them far too much credit.
    Do you have any idea of what an ACU 130 is capable of? I'm thinking that you don't, if you think it's just an area suppression weapon. Do you know what area suppression means?

    Pulled off station due to SAM threats? LMAO!!!!! SAM's are guided missiles. They work just as well in the dark as they do in daylight.

    You people will say anything to defend Obama! LOL!!!

    Oh, BTW, post a link to those accounts you've read.
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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, but that's why all the secrecy. People tend not to talk about secret operations. If they did, it wouldn't be a secret.
    Well then, why not just say--from the beginning--that it was a covert operation and we can't say much about it? Why lie about it from the git-go?
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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Read what you just said there.



    The CIA team was on the roof top. That's a fact.

    There was a mortar attack while they were on the roof top. That's a fact.

    The enemy walked their mortars onto the roof top (according to reporting by Jennifer Griffin of Fox News) using pretty standard "call for and adjust fire" TTPs. Thats' a fact.

    The enemy succeded in killing the CIA team using those TTPs. That's a fact.

    So one of two things happened.

    Either the CIA team was using a visible laser and that was what allowed the enemy to identify their position and call for accurate mortar fire OR the CIA team was not using a visible laser but the enemy was able to find, fix, and eliminate them nevertheless.

    If it was the former, okay, case closed.

    If it was the latter, what harm would using a visible laser have caused?

    So in terms of "using some common sense", either a visible laser was the cause or the visible laser is a non-starter.
    Target painting lasers aren't visible. Seriously! Where do you come up with this stuff? Did you read a Tom Clancy novel and suddenly become an expert?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Doesn't surprise me.
    If you go back to the Navy SEAL's Bin Laden raid the SEAL's confirmed they were trained and ready to execute the mission for three months and every time they were ready to execute the mission they were ordered to stand down. Sources in the White House said it was Valerie Jarrett who kept influencing Obama to issue the stand down orders fearing if the mission failed that it would hurt Obama's chances of being reelected and given a second chance.

    Obama not having the cajones that are required to be Cn'C finally dumped the Bin Laden mission on the lap of Leon Panetta. Panetta having a long career as a yes man dumped the mission on the lap of Admiral McRaven with a handwritten note from Panetta basically saying that if the mission fails McRaven and the SEAL's will be blamed not Obama or the Obama White House.

    So it's very likely that Valeri Jarret has the blood of four Americans on her hands so Obama could be given a second chance as Commander and Chief.

    The endgame being, 52% of the voters decided to give the Cn'C who was derlict in his duties as Cn'C a second chance.
    How could a senior advisor to the President make a decisión like this?

    How can any advisor make any decisions?

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Wow, if this is true then it is truly a bombshell!

    In this particular instance there is only one person that had the authority to issue a stand down and that is the Commander and Chief.
    Panetta didn't have the authority. Neither did Valerie Jarrett And that is what I find troubling. I believe through sworn testimony that Panetta met with Obama at the White House and briefed him on the situation. And it was stated that Valerie Jarrett went to see the "Commander and Chief" at his home quarters later on that evening and then went to the situation room (at the White House where Panetta (Secretary of Defense) was monitoring the situation. Panetta is not an idiot and knows protocol quite well, the man has been in Washington for a very long time and there is no way he could have issued a stand down order without having solid data that it was being given directly from the Commander and Chief Obama. Either Jarrett took it on herself to issue the stand down order while lying it came from Obama or she indeed had the authority from Obama to issue such an order. My gut tells me Panetta was quite content with whomever gave him the go ahead to execute the order. Just a thought.
    Sorry to interupt regularly scheduled programming, but isn't it Commander IN Chief?

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    People really need to stop talking about this, there is no conspiracy or scandal here. Get over it!
    Do you work directly for the White House? You sure are parrotting their words.

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How could a senior advisor to the President make a decisión like this?

    How can any advisor make any decisions?
    How could Valerie Jarrett be the senior advisor to President Obama ?

    How could Valerie Jarrett be an advisor to anyone ?

    She's second rate.

    But everyone in the Obama White House is second rate. All of Obama's cabinet members are second rate. All of Obama's appointees have been second rate.

    Keep this under your hat, President Obama is second rate.

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Sorry to interupt regularly scheduled programming, but isn't it Commander IN Chief?
    Why yes it is Mason66! But even with my grammatical error, did it keep you from understanding my intent? I think not. I certainly didn't have any problem understanding the jest of your reply even though you misspelled interrupt.

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    Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    good
    tell us what she said
    It was a short story. Look it up, won't take you but just a few seconds to read it.

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