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Exclusive: Dozens of C.I.A. operatives on the ground during Benghazi attack

Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

You only care when Americans die eh? Good to know.

You only care when Democrats aren't responsible for their deaths " eh " ? Good to Know
 
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You only care when Democrats aren't responsible for their deaths " eh " ? Good to Know
If they were I would.
 
Deflection. You now look bad on the fake Benghazi claims, so now you're bringing up non sequitur Syrian claims. You're derailing your own thread!

It does follow.

Because if we were arming the rebels back in September, then all of this talk after September of arming the rebels was meaningless propaganda and lies because we were already arming them.
 
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I haven't repeated anything and Stevens wasn't a drone. It was his call to be there on 9-11, look it up, regardless of what the CIA was up to at the time, and they are always up to something so don't try to make this into the Second Coming when you won't find anything more than Americans doing what they usually do, screwing up in a situation they never should have been in in the first place.

When you leave the world alone you don't end up dead far from home but you don't get to pull the strings on it either. As long as we like to pull those strings, and we love to calling it in our National Interests, boxes covered in flags will be sent home. Deal with it rationally or don't bother.
I am indifferent to your indifference.
 
FYI - I don't give a flying **** that the precept of the IC is secrecy. I'm a proponent for transparency. End of story.

Clearly your advocacy of transparency overrides common sense about covert operations. I'm sorry to say your ideology isn't applicable to the real world.
 
It does follow.

Because if we were arming the rebels back in September, then all of this talk after September of arming the rebels was meaningless propaganda and lies because we were already arming them.

You mean Obama says things in public that don't accord with our classified operations carried out by the CIA in the national interest? That's crazy! Presidents should openly discuss classified operations so our enemies know what we're doing!

Such is the lunacy of the Obamaphobic right.
 
It does follow.

Because if we were arming the rebels back in September, then all of this talk after September of arming the rebels was meaningless propaganda and lies because we were already arming them.

No, it's called international relations and politics. I'm sorry, but I hope you're just saying all this for the sake of argument, and you aren't actually that naive/idealistic about how the world works.
 
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The thought that the different talking points between the State Dept and Obama's Press Secy somehow indicates a cover-up. There was miscommunication between them, which should be taken care of to be sure, but hardly some hidden truth to be found in this.

"Centrist" huh ? Lol...I don't think so. Look, if someone who was on the ground ( Mike Hicks ) testified they knew immediately it wasn't a "protest" then that's enough for me to call BS on your " miscommunication " theory.

I have yet to meet a " centrist " who justifies down to such a childish level what was obviously a cover up.



It's pretty obvious that there wasn't sufficient communication within the government, and the State Department went on the record with outdated information.

Oh yes the most sophisticated military in the world, a Government that can monitor just about every digital piece of data it's 350 million citizens handles in real time, had " communication " problems.

I guess our military has reverted back to tying two soup cans together with string as means for "communication" with the State Dept.

Again, your'e desperate attempt to mitigate what is by now to all people with a inkling of common sense, a cover up is beyond me. The White House Situation Room knew immediately, AFRICOM knew immediately, Hillary Knew Immediately and Obama knew immediately that there was no "protest".

Why do you like being lied too ?


I would ask for some evidence, but I doubt you'll find anything on a non-right wing site. How about this, if you can find a site that doesn't have an outlandish claim about the government, the Democrats or President Obama on its front page, and doesn't have half a dozen American flags fully saturating every visitor, then I'll take a look at it.

I am SO surprised that now, months and months later,after Congressional testimony, after the stone walling from the administration that you actually NEED evidence. Keep those blinders on. Obama and Hillary need people like you, people that are all too willing to be manipulated



This would an example of a claim that would instantly destroy the credibility of any source you provide.

Funny, you being the arbiter of credibility when you can't see an obvious cover up. A lie ginned up right before an election to deflect attention away from a disaster. A disaster caused by millions of idiots electing a man who was the least qualified, and him appointing a women who had NO qualifications.

You libs need to understand something. Talent and ability are important especially when the lack of costs people their lives.
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

I am glad. I expect little of you. Somehow I feel I will be disappointed...
If it helps, I was disappointed in you already. Your turn.
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

Wow, your'e privy to the top secret CIA comings and goings in and around Benghazi. You've got a pretty high " security level " yourself.
Wha..huh?

And lying about a terrorist attack isn't a "MEME",
I said you are not getting YOUR meme together. This is not to tough to understand.


it's what defines the ability of Hillary as the State Dept Secretary and a human being.
I see. When the CIA screws up and does not protect the Ambassador as was their charge, during a secret op, that was still ongoing, your answer is for the SoS to reveal to everyone the true nature of the operation.

Brilliant.
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

I see. When the CIA screws up and does not protect the Ambassador as was their charge, during a secret op, that was still ongoing, your answer is for the SoS to reveal to everyone the true nature of the operation.

Brilliant.

The tea partiers are reduced to this kind of lunacy. It's their brains on Obamaphobia.
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

Again, your'e desperate attempt to mitigate what is by now to all people with a inkling of common sense, a cover up is beyond me. The White House Situation Room knew immediately, AFRICOM knew immediately, Hillary Knew Immediately and Obama knew immediately that there was no "protest".

Why do you like being lied too ?
I have no doubt that there are secret operations going on all the time, that is the nature of CIA ops, I am not so stupid as to refer to cover stories as "lies", I am not so naive.
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

If it helps, I was disappointed in you already. Your turn.
No problem. It is clear to me that anything I write will be beyond your ability to comprehend.

:)
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

Before I start, let me work through who said what. President Obama, the day after the attack, referred to it as an, "act of terror" in an address, and in an interview stated that it didn't "sound like your normal demonstration." Then on Sept. 16, Rice says it was because of a mob. Secretary Clinton stated 2 days after Rice that it was a terrorist attack.

The only person to have said it was not an attack from the start was Rice, therefore I will assume you take issue with this statement.

I'm working off this timeline, FYI.

"Centrist" huh ? Lol...I don't think so. Look, if someone who was on the ground ( Mike Hicks ) testified they knew immediately it wasn't a "protest" then that's enough for me to call BS on your " miscommunication " theory.

You mean Gregory Hicks. Before you put any words in my mouth, the miscommunication I'm referring to is between Clinton and Rice. Rice clearly was not given the most up to date talking points, and said the wrong thing on the record.

I have yet to meet a " centrist " who justifies down to such a childish level what was obviously a cover up.

Spare me your personal attacks.

Oh yes the most sophisticated military in the world, a Government that can monitor just about every digital piece of data it's 350 million citizens handles in real time, had " communication " problems.

I guess our military has reverted back to tying two soup cans together with string as means for "communication" with the State Dept.

People make mistakes. Unless you're implying that government can perfectly execute anything they wish to do, which is obviously false. Again, the miscommunication was within the State Department. Not sure why you're pulling the military into this.

Again, your'e desperate attempt to mitigate what is by now to all people with a inkling of common sense, a cover up is beyond me. The White House Situation Room knew immediately, AFRICOM knew immediately, Hillary Knew Immediately and Obama knew immediately that there was no "protest".

Yeah, they did know, and they said that almost immediately. They never said anything to refute that it was anything but a deliberate attack on the Consulate/Annex.

Why do you like being lied too ?

If you could keep irrelevant commentary to a minimum, that'd be great.

I am SO surprised that now, months and months later,after Congressional testimony, after the stone walling from the administration that you actually NEED evidence. Keep those blinders on. Obama and Hillary need people like you, people that are all too willing to be manipulated

Coupled with the article at the beginning of this thread, I'm convinced the stone walling is about the CIA operation, and not the attack.

Funny, you being the arbiter of credibility when you can't see an obvious cover up. A lie ginned up right before an election to deflect attention away from a disaster. A disaster caused by millions of idiots electing a man who was the least qualified, and him appointing a women who had NO qualifications.

A cover-up of what exactly? I don't see what, besides this a potential CIA operation, is being covered up. Obama and Clinton went on the record saying it was a terrorist attack. Susan Rice, who might've not been given any talking points and came to her own conclusions, said it was because of a mob. This isn't a big deal.

You libs need to understand something. Talent and ability are important especially when the lack of costs people their lives.

Just to say it again, this sort of commentary is entirely irrelevant.

EDIT: I found an organizational chart of the State Department for you. The information about Benghazi went up the ladder to Clinton, bypassing Rice, and we don't know that it came back down to Rice at all.
 
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They being CIA has nothing to do with the fact they've hidden.

They should be accesable to close door Congressional Comittee's.
So you like open information? Then we can all agree that Snowden and Manning being witch hunted is wrong?



Iran Contra ? How many dead US ambassadors and Americans were the result of Iran Contra ?
Does it matter? Does it matter it was one of the biggest all time lies ever told to the American people? Does it also matter that we directly did business with terrorists and DEATH SQUADS?
 
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No problem. It is clear to me that anything I write will be beyond your ability to comprehend.

:)
I'll use Google Translate for Moron. I don't mind taking the extra time so fire away.
 
No, it's called international relations and politics. I'm sorry, but I hope you're just saying all this for the sake of argument, and you aren't actually that naive/idealistic about how the world works.

Of course politicians/military/federal employees lie, and often for good reason, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be told the truth at all times by the lot of them. I mean, do you enjoy being lied to? I certainly don't, and it has nothing to do with it coming from the Obama administration - I am an equal opportunity criticizer.
 
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Before I start, let me work through who said what. <Much deleted>
The information about Benghazi went up the ladder to Clinton, bypassing Rice, and we don't know that it came back down to Rice at all.
Did any of the articles you read explained why Rice went out to lie instead of Hillary Clinton?
 
Re: CNN Reports Dozens of CIA Operatives on the Ground During Benghazi Attack

I'll use Google Translate for Moron. I don't mind taking the extra time so fire away.
Now that was a great idea. I ran your response through it. The translator said you have nothing.
 
Of course politicians/military/federal employees lie, and often for good reason, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be told the truth at all times by the lot of them. I mean, do you enjoy being lied to? I certainly don't, and it has nothing to do with it coming from the Obama administration - I am an equal opportunity criticizer.

As an average citizen, I'm content with knowing when I'm being lied to (not very hard in politics), and knowing why I'm being lied to (which I can reason out on my own). If I choose to enter government, and if I'm in a position where I need/should to know, I will demand I know.
 
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Did any of the articles you read explained why Rice went out to lie instead of Hillary Clinton?

I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you suggesting that for some reason the State Department wanted to make it seem that a movie was responsible for causing a riot, which incidentally killed 4 Americans, AFTER it was put out that it was likely a deliberate attack? What's the incentive in that? Your argument is completely illogical.
 
You mean Obama says things in public that don't accord with our classified operations carried out by the CIA in the national interest? That's crazy! Presidents should openly discuss classified operations so our enemies know what we're doing!

Such is the lunacy of the Obamaphobic right.

First off, I'm not a "Obamaphobe". Secondly, I'm not a part of the 'right'.

But I find it laughable that you condone our current president and his administration blatantly lying to all of us for nearly a year. What difference does it make if our enemies knew we were arming the rebels? What, they'd try to stop us? Fine, let them try. Or is it because the average American didn't want the U.S. to get involved in Syria so we had to do it clandestinely?
 
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you suggesting that for some reason the State Department wanted to make it seem that a movie was responsible for causing a riot, which incidentally killed 4 Americans, AFTER it was put out that it was likely a deliberate attack? What's the incentive in that? Your argument is completely illogical.
I thought you knew Rice, who had no role in Obama's Benghazi Massacre, went out to lie instead of the Secretary of State who did play a role in Obama's Benghazi Massacre. I apologize for not recognizing that you argue from a position of ignorance. It is probably willful.
 
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