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    US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

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    US releases prisoners from Guantanamo - Israel News, Ynetnews
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    They were released under, at least to me, laughable conditions. They'll more than likely get around the 'wrong crowd', become radicalized again (if not already) and return to their old ways. There's no way they don't hate with every fiber of their being the U.S. and the West in general. I suspect, sometime in the future, they'll get droned.

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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    They were released under, at least to me, laughable conditions. They'll more than likely get around the 'wrong crowd', become radicalized again (if not already) and return to their old ways. There's no way they don't hate with every fiber of their being the U.S. and the West in general. I suspect, sometime in the future, they'll get droned.

    They didn't mention whether they were proven to be taliban did they? There are many people in that place that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Many people there were scooped up for reward money, and were never charged with any crimes.

    You may be right that these guys might get radicalized, but I doubt it has anything to do with "western" civilization. It has more to do with being locked away for years without being charged with a crime (unless these men were actually charged)

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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    They were released under, at least to me, laughable conditions. They'll more than likely get around the 'wrong crowd', become radicalized again (if not already) and return to their old ways. There's no way they don't hate with every fiber of their being the U.S. and the West in general. I suspect, sometime in the future, they'll get droned.
    Chances are they are "radicalized" even more with direct hate against the US because of their unlawful detention in GITMO for a decade. Most people who were taken to GITMO were innocent of any links or crimes to terror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Chances are they are "radicalized" with hate against the US because of their unlawful detention in GITMO for a decade. Most people who were taken to GITMO were innocent of any links or crimes to terror.
    Yeah, I'm aware of that - that actually innocent people were incarcerated. However, at this junction, I'm not aware if these released inmates are the innocent or guilty ones.

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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Chances are they are "radicalized" with hate against the US because of their unlawful detention in GITMO for a decade. Most people who were taken to GITMO were innocent of any links or crimes to terror.
    If anybody locked me in a cage for that long without a trial, I would be very, very radically charged against them.
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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yeah, I'm aware of that - that actually innocent people were incarcerated. However, at this junction, I'm not aware if these released inmates are the innocent or guilty ones.
    Considering there has been next to no charged, let alone any trials.. then they are all innocent according to basic law.

    Plus just because they were Taliban, does not mean they were terrorists. I dislike the Taliban massively, but attacking an attacker in your own country is not terror.. it is fighting an aggressive occupation force. Shipping these people off to an island 10s of thousands of KM away from their homeland they are trying to defend... is immoral and illegal.
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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If anybody locked me in a cage for that long without a trial, I would be very, very radically charged against them.
    Exactly. And that is the problem with GITMO. 90+% of the men shipped there were totally innocent but once they were shipped there, then they definitely had an issue with the US and were easy prey for the actual terrorists.

    Look at it this way.. if some cop arrests you on trumped up charges and you are kept in jail (and even convicted) for years and then finally released without even an appology or compensation... then chances are you will never ever trust the system or the cops again.
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    Re: US releases prisoners from Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If anybody locked me in a cage for that long without a trial, I would be very, very radically charged against them.
    I don't think a trail would console me much. If I were guilty, it would; trail or no trail.

    If I thought of the US as an enemy, I would gripe in any case.

    But could I really be angry, if I had been picked up in Pakistan with a gun? I knew that the forensics would not save me on that type of crime scene. I knew, the security forces in the area might pick me up. I knew that if they did I should pray hard, that they sent me to Gitmo and did not put me into one of the local jails.

    But what do the States do? Is “Take no Prisoners” the way to go with terrorists?

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    They didn't mention whether they were proven to be taliban did they? There are many people in that place that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Many people there were scooped up for reward money, and were never charged with any crimes.

    You may be right that these guys might get radicalized, but I doubt it has anything to do with "western" civilization. It has more to do with being locked away for years without being charged with a crime (unless these men were actually charged)
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    And I should have been clearer about what I said about them hating the West. Undoubtedly, the U.S. and Israel are there, but they probably despise the governments of the U.K., Australia, Canada, Germany and whomever else has contributed troops and resources for the allies in the War on Terrorism. It's doubtful, outside of the Jews and women, that they hate all the people in the allied countries, but it is certainly within the realm of logical possibilities - and largely for the fact, at least in my estimation, that no one really came to their aid. But why should we have? 9/11 was perpetrated by colleagues that killed thousands of U.S. citizens. Besides, they'd kill us, behead us, burn our lifeless body, drag it and hang it up for display before they'd consider "helping" one of us. The inhumanity would be the same for a Western woman, just more sexual and prolonged.

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