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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    No. Seat belt requirements don't restrict you from driving a high-powered sports car. You still have the right to drive said sports car as much as you want, even though it's probably more dangerous than a plain Honda Accord.
    but its the law in some states of the US I have been to so by not wearing a seatbelt you are breaking the law.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    but its the law in some states of the US I have been to so by not wearing a seatbelt you are breaking the law.
    Right. Just because something is illegal does not automatically mean that said law is reasonable or justifiable. The laws we are using for example purposes here are indeed currently valid laws, but they all have differing intents and/or differing ramifications. Some laws overstep their legitimate bounds, as is the case with the soda law as it limits an otherwise legal activity, and some are legit, as is a seatbelt law as it provides safety without otherwise affecting any activity.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Right. Just because something is illegal does not automatically mean that said law is reasonable or justifiable. The laws we are using for example purposes here are indeed currently valid laws, but they all have differing intents and/or differing ramifications. Some laws overstep their legitimate bounds, as is the case with the soda law as it limits an otherwise legal activity, and some are legit, as is a seatbelt law as it provides safety without otherwise affecting any activity.
    I don't know to be honest I think this ban was completley justifed when you look at the level of overweight people within the US, I recently saw a list a foods banned in most of the western world but yet was legal in the US. Eventually you will have to face up to your obesity crisis and for me the only way your going to combat it is with big government laws.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I don't know to be honest I think this ban was completley justifed when you look at the level of overweight people within the US, I recently saw a list a foods banned in most of the western world but yet was legal in the US. Eventually you will have to face up to your obesity crisis and for me the only way your going to combat it is with big government laws.
    We agree that obesity is an issue. We disagree on what is the legitimate bounds of government involvement.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    We agree that obesity is an issue. We disagree on what is the legitimate bounds of government involvement.
    But do you think people can solve the issue themselves?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    But do you think people can solve the issue themselves?
    If it's important enough to them, then yes. If it's not important to them, then no, and if it's not important to them they'll skirt the laws anyway.

    Be that as it may, it's simply not the government's legitimate business to intrude that deep into individual people's lives.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    but its fine to tell women what they can do with their wombs. Odd country.
    sorry but you not stating that right, people on the opposite side of abortion, are concerned about the life inside the woman....not her body.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry but you not stating that right, people on the opposite side of abortion, are concerned about the life inside the woman....not her body.
    It always seems that those on the left decry those on the right "telling women what they can do with their bodies", then turn around on other issues and use abortion as justification for telling others what they can do with their bodies.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    It always seems that those on the left decry those on the right "telling women what they can do with their bodies", then turn around on other issues and use abortion as justification for telling others what they can do with their bodies.

    those on the right who oppose abortion, only care about the life inside of a woman, they dont care about her body in general.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If it's important enough to them, then yes. If it's not important to them, then no, and if it's not important to them they'll skirt the laws anyway.

    Be that as it may, it's simply not the government's legitimate business to intrude that deep into individual people's lives.
    its the governments business when it becomes a national security issue which of course it will be in about 20-30 years when your workforce is depleted and the number of obese people claiming disablility, using gov paid healthcare etc is too high to fund.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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