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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what about this one ..Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)
    Well, I mean someone using the phrase, not exactly cases that could be considered judicial activism.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Well, I mean someone using the phrase, not exactly cases that could be considered judicial activism.
    i will understand how they ruled against Roscoe Filburn.....the court knew he grew the wheat for consumption by his cattle.... and not for sell on the market.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Well, it's not really a conservative phenomenon, considering the responses Citizens United and Gore V Bush generated.

    As I acknowledged earlier, people tend to imply judicial activism in decisions they don't like.
    I don't recall the same hue and cry over Citizens United as there was over the 'corrupt' Supreme Court ruling on Doma and the prop 8 business from California. I don't recall the 'liberals' making a bunch of almost threats to overthrow/start a revolution/secede over Citizens United. Did I miss something?

    Gore v BushII was a presidential election that went on to have Gore winning the popular vote. But there was no wild rants about blood of tyrants and all that rot.

    I don't believe I said ONLY the 'conservatives' bad mouth the courts- do think they make it an artform, like the rants in congress of Terry Shivo and wanting the courts to interfere with Florida law over a patient in a hospital but quite smug when the courts upheld Florida's cut-off for recounts in Gore V BushII.

    People tend to imply- ok, I get that- but 'conservatives' make the false idol of unelected activist judges a high totem at every convention, PAC meeting and national election.

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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    how do you know, he could have meant in the real world and not on this forum.
    HOJ is almost always wrong when it comes to his interpretation of rational thinking peoples' posts



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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    HOJ is almost always wrong when it comes to his interpretation of rational thinking peoples' posts
    Looks like more rightwing boomsticklover noise machine meme.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Looks like more rightwing boomsticklover noise machine meme.
    Yeah, a need to say something even if its completely wrong as usual



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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I don't recall the same hue and cry over Citizens United as there was over the 'corrupt' Supreme Court ruling on Doma and the prop 8 business from California. I don't recall the 'liberals' making a bunch of almost threats to overthrow/start a revolution/secede over Citizens United. Did I miss something?
    It seems so.


    Gore v BushII was a presidential election that went on to have Gore winning the popular vote. But there was no wild rants about blood of tyrants and all that rot.
    I'm referencing the court decision, not the election.

    You don't remember the controversy of that decision?

    I don't believe I said ONLY the 'conservatives' bad mouth the courts- do think they make it an artform, like the rants in congress of Terry Shivo and wanting the courts to interfere with Florida law over a patient in a hospital but quite smug when the courts upheld Florida's cut-off for recounts in Gore V BushII.
    Well, your position was liberals don't engage in rhetoric about judicial activism because they didn't about this case. Personally, I don't think many liberals agree with the soda ban in the first place. Issues they do disagree with, such as Gore V Bush and Citizens United are another matter...

    People tend to imply- ok, I get that- but 'conservatives' make the false idol of unelected activist judges a high totem at every convention, PAC meeting and national election.
    Do they? A vast majority of the time, unless someone is engaging in the behavior of denouncing a decision they disagree with, I don't hear anything about th it except for people who sarcastically reference it every time a decision is made.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    It's the total intellectual bankruptcy of conservatism. Look at turtle's post -- I was quoting him!
    Educated people know how to use quotation marks, and proper coding on the Internet. You on the other hand did not, so you did not quote Turtle, nor properly attribute it to him in your post. Do try to keep up, something more than your usual leftwing noise machine meme.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    While I think it's a good idea to limit how much of that crap you drink, and while it and other crap we consume, contributes to obesity and illnesses that costs all of us a lot of money, a mayor shouldn't be telling how much of something people can have. He's not a parent. So we agree.
    Stop trying to pick up the tab for every bad decision people make and it won't cost us near as much money.
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    Re: Appeals judges say NYC's ban on big, sugary drinks at restaurants is unconstituti

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    It seems so.

    (So do show me, enlighten me.... have some proof.)



    I'm referencing the court decision, not the election. (the court decision that ended the recount of a national election where Gore won the popular vote- let's try and use context. Controversy yes- the extreme rants like the radical right- no)

    You don't remember the controversy of that decision? (I remember some, but again that wasn't a brain dead patient in a florida hospital which got GOP congressman fuming infront of cameras over 'activist judges' when the supreme court said the florida laws on legal guardianship are constitutional, everyone to include BushII tried to get involved to take the legal system over to suit themselves. No sir the gore v bushII was for the leader of the free world seat. It was for the presidency. Even at that the calls for overthrowning the government and blood of tyrants seemed lacking)

    Well, your position was liberals don't engage in rhetoric about judicial activism because they didn't about this case. Personally, I don't think many liberals agree with the soda ban in the first place. Issues they do disagree with, such as Gore V Bush and Citizens United are another matter...

    (No Sir, you are spinning the discussion... I never said Liberals never voice dislike over an opinion, I do say the radical right wing of the GOP makes 'activist judges' a red meat, incite the masses chant. Everytime a right wing law gets struck down from making landlords confirm the citizen status of everyone who rents from them to prop 8 of late the radical right wing in here comes unglued. You try and make disagreement the equal to the blood of tyrants rants.)


    Do they? A vast majority of the time, unless someone is engaging in the behavior of denouncing a decision they disagree with, I don't hear anything about th it except for people who sarcastically reference it every time a decision is made.
    (I'd say you suffer a bit of the don't notice people I agree with doing stuff- will hunt to try and make any disagreement seem the equal to the wild eyed rants done in here, in front of cameras, at TP/GOP political rallies, and national GOP presidential primaries. the TP/GOP has elevated 'activist' rants to a high and ugly artform)

    No sir, try and make the two sides equal on this all you want... but that dog just won't hunt.

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