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    F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Redd View Post
    What about the new Balloon drones that are going to be watching over Washington D.C.? I am wondering what people think of those.
    It's all part of the same thing... Total information awareness.

    They want to know, or to be able to figure out, everything about everyone at any time. It's in the patriot act.

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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Haha, it's all so funny, a new stasi state is being built all around you, with technology to make the nazi Germans look like dysfunctional morons... And you think a bit of tinfoil is going to help anything??
    Save us all Bman ...What would Ayn Rand do?
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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    It's all part of the same thing... Total information awareness.

    They want to know, or to be able to figure out, everything about everyone at any time. It's in the patriot act.
    That's really the problem with aggregation. As the NSA builds a facility to hold zetabytes of information, the government expands collection and recording for the purpose of massive data mining. And as they aggregate more and more, the effects become more and more stifling. On any one individual level it doesn't seem that bad, but when the system is evaluated as a whole we see the complete destruction of the 4th amendment and other aggressive, draconian policing methods. And they will only gain in aggressiveness and tyranny if left unchecked. This is the natural course of all unrestrained government.
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    F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Save us all Bman ...What would Ayn Rand do.
    How can we protect our ability to clean up dog poop in anonymity?
    No no, you missed it... It's a good thing. The constitution and freedom are archaic concepts that were brought into effect only after thousands o years of uppity peasants thinking that they deserved a better life.

    We need to undo that damage and keep the majority of humanity under an iron grip in perpetuity.

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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Quick run ....
    I just heard there is a sale on aluminum foil fedoras at JC Penny's ...
    If you hurry you can protect your thought waves by tonight!
    Your incredulity aside, there are nano drones.

    Google it.

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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Save us all Bman ...What would Ayn Rand do?
    How can we protect our ability to clean up dog poop in secure anonymity?
    Well if he's going to watch me pick up dog poop at least he can ****ing help.
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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Your incredulity aside, there are nano drones.

    Google it.
    I know it's hush hush top secret but I hear tell they are no bigger than a bee...
    drone.jpg
    Oh wait...

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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I know it's hush hush top secret but I hear tell they are no bigger than a bee...
    drone.jpg
    Oh wait...
    Again, your incredulity aside, nano drones are real.

    Google it.

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    F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Again, your incredulity aside, nano drones are real.

    Google it.
    He wont, it's too fun to laugh and make jokes...

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...copter_UAV.jpg

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    Re: F.B.I. says it doesn't need warrant to use drones

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Do I need a warrant to put a CCTV cam in my business? Does the govt need a warrant to put one in a courtroom, or other govt building?

    Does a cop need a warrant to walk around and look at things?
    Do I need a warrant to put a CCTV cam in my business?
    No, its your property.

    Does the govt need a warrant to put one in a courtroom, or other govt building?
    No, because they are on government property.

    Does a cop need a warrant to walk around and look at things.
    Yes, if it requires entering private property without permission.

    A drone flying at legal height for manned aircraft is probably a legal search.

    A drone flying at a lower level (than a manned aircraft can) and peeping in windows and otherwise seeing things that can not be seen by a manned aircraft or from the street should require a warrant.

    In addition to the privacy issue, there will also be noise, safety and other nuisance issues if drones proliferate. We may even see corporate drones following you from the store to your home to spy on your consumption and lifestyle for marketing purposes if we don't limit their use severely.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 07-30-13 at 03:36 PM.

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