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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Apparently these days and age we cant eve know who we are at war with anymore.. Talk about a secret state... [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I don't understand how a nation can be at war with terrorist groups as if we were fighting a foreign nation or engaged in a civil war. My understanding of the Constitution indicates that only Congress has the power to declare war. To the best of my knowledge Congress has never declared war on Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or their "associated forces" whatever that means.

    Then again I don't understand how we can be at war with consumer products (ala "The War on Drugs") either. Go figure.
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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    No. I had a straight face. It was a very narrow description of a very complex issue. For that I cry mea culpa.

    True. They are pissed that we have troops on their soil. And yes, it has to do with oil. And yes again, we have been involved in bad things their. But... to limit the description of why they hate us to your description is just as limited an argument.

    These people live in a 7th Century society that's still pissed over the Crusades.

    As I said, it's a very complex discussion, that no one will ever agree upon. Even the Islamist Extremists can't agree on exactly why they hate us. Hate us today that is. All I ever hear is the transgression du jour. Tomorrow it will be something else. Palestine, Israel, Somalia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the Balkans, Indonesia, or some other location around the world that they feel we should get out of.

    There are many troops from many countries here in the US. Right now. I don't see people strapping bombs to their chests here and killing women and children to get them out of the US?

    We have an economic interest in most countries of the world. Now, if we want to completely change our economy, reduce our personal incomes to the level that many of these other countries population barely survives on, then maybe, just maybe, we could pull out of the world, become a completely protectionist nation, like we tried in the early 1900's, and then see what happens.

    Based on my years around the world, I seriously doubt it would make a difference.

    Funny how the groups that are demanding that we get out of the world, are the same ones that want their paychecks to be increased and prices reduced. That old Sesame Street song keeps coming to mind... 'One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong..."
    It is amazing the logic gymnastics people will go through to justify a war against a people they hate, and the number of rights and protections they will sacrifice to keep up that war. Thank you, you have shown us a good reason why the government has been allowed to get away with this insanity.

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Our clandestine and unaccountable government, and the corporate interests they champion, are far more dangerous to the American people than any foreign threat could ever hope to be.

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Our clandestine and unaccountable government, and the corporate interests they champion, are far more dangerous to the American people than any foreign threat could ever hope to be.
    Don't you understand these desert people are learning how to swim, and clearly when you look at a globe they only have to swim less than a foot to get across the atlantic so WE ARE DOOMED! They are all going to swim over here with their machine guns and pressure cookers and take all of our rights away if we do not immediately surrender every right we have to the federal government so they can stop them. Look at them, they cannot control a country smaller than many of our states, but when they get over here watch out they will force us all to wear burkas and pray to allah in mosques. We all know our government is one of the most believable and trustworthy in the world and they only have our best interests in mind so they would never lie and use the extra powers we give them to do things like persecute people they do not like, intimidate and silence any press that gets out of line, or declare war on terrorists groups based on constitutionally protected free speech because everyone they ever go after is a terrorist as we see in gitmo. It is not like we have given up our freedoms and protections to the muslims, we have given them up to the US government and they are only right in our bedrooms and not thousands of miles away in some desert without any means of getting here like those magical terrorists we are at war with. Your fears are completely unfounded. Now if you do not mind i have to go pray to my corporate gods because my father forgot to last week and we have not seen him since.

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    And WE'RE tolerating answers like that from OUR government.

    Who's supposed to be the boss(es) in this equation?
    As Oliver Stone has put it recently, the question is not "do you have something to hide?", the question is whether we control the government, or the government controls us.

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    And WE'RE tolerating answers like that from OUR government.

    Who's supposed to be the boss(es) in this equation?
    I totally agree with this, we elect or at least have a role in getting EVERY member of Congress, the President, the VP, the President's cabinet (by voting the President in). If you or the people don't like it make a change.
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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Not really. Our breathing, and flourishing, and, well, being free (Infidels)... That is what is recruiting them.

    Never underestimate the recruitment power of a cultist vein of a religion.

    Been to a Pentecostal Holiness Church lately? Scary folks... The only difference is the lack of suicide bombers. But, its early yet. Give them time, you never know?
    Hahahah. Literally, "they hate us for our freedom." You bought that?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Apparently these days and age we cant eve know who we are at war with anymore.. Talk about a secret state... [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Blame the socialists and liberals, they like big powerful secret government.
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    Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Our clandestine and unaccountable government, and the corporate interests they champion, are far more dangerous to the American people than any foreign threat could ever hope to be.
    Tell that to a 9-11 widow!!

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    Re: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Tell that to a 9-11 widow!!
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