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Ohio plans unspeakably cruel appeal of dying man's last wish

Sykes said:
He has to be his spouse to be buried in his spouse's family plot. This IS his spouse. A judge ruled this to be true. And Ohio chose to fight it, despise the fact that the man with the family plot is dying of Lou Gehrig's disease.
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He's dying of Lou Gehrig's disease. So what?

That doesn't entitle him to special plot privileges.
 
Sykes said:
That's not even the issue. It's just a spiteful hate comment made by someone upthread.

Correction: They need to be married in Ohio for him to be buried with his spouse, and Ohio is challenging the judge's decision in their favor.

Buttheads.
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Um, no they don't.

From my understanding of the article this isn't a function of state law.

The family purchased a bunch of plots in a private cemetery and one of the provisions was that an individual has to be legally married to qualify for a spousal position in the plots to be buried next to a spouse. It's not a state law, it's basically a "trust" administered cemetery administrators. The spouses involved are legally married, just not under the laws of Ohio, however does the plot trust state that the marriage had to be performed in Ohio?

I think there are a lot of spouse burials in Ohio where the participants didn't enter into the Civil Marriage in Ohio.



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Sykes said:
He has to be his spouse to be buried in his spouse's family plot. This IS his spouse. A judge ruled this to be true. And Ohio chose to fight it, despise the fact that the man with the family plot is dying of Lou Gehrig's disease.
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The two guys are Civilly Married, so the guy is his spouse. Ohio might not recognize the marriage, but that is a different matter.


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Dapper Andy said:
Well, I'm talking about next to each other in that specific plot. It looks like only a spouse can be buried with the guy.
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No it's a family plot, any other member of the family could be buried there in addition to a spouse. I guess it's first come first served unless someone calls "dibs". ;)


However the two guys are spouses, they even have a Civil Marriage license to prove it.


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Ohio does not recognize homosexual marriage nor civil unions. I am not surprised that the state is fighting back on this one. They should. They went to Maryland to get married in order to try to circumvent Ohio law and Ohio shouldn't contest the ruling, which I think was a bad one. I think Ohio will win this case.
 
WorldWatcher said:
No it's a family plot, any other member of the family could be buried there in addition to a spouse. I guess it's first come first served unless someone calls "dibs". ;)


However the two guys are spouses, they even have a Civil Marriage license to prove it.


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Is it a marriage license the state recognizes though?
 
Dapper Andy said:
Is it a marriage license the state recognizes though?
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Sure, the marriage license was issued by the state of MA, I'm sure MA recognizes their own license.

If Ohio doesn't recognize it? Who cares, the issue has nothing to with them unless it's a state run cemetery. They quys have a legally valid Civil Marriage licenses and therefore one is the spouse of the other.


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Gipper said:
Fixed it for ya.
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Don't change my quotes. You want to say something different from me - then say that. But changing my quote is an a*holish thing to do.
 
paddymcdougall said:
Maryland recognizes it and the court says Ohio has to.
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That doesn't answer the question though.

Maryland law isn't Ohio law and a judge's support doesn't mean all that much.

Is this a marriage license recognized by Ohio?
 
Dapper Andy said:
That doesn't answer the question though.

Maryland law isn't Ohio law and a judge's support doesn't mean all that much.

Is this a marriage license recognized by Ohio?
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As I understand it, because Ohio recognizes other kinds of marriages from other states that would be illegal in Ohio, they are required to recognize this marriage.
 
I understand this is yet another episode in the states' rights vs human rights charade. However, I'm torn about this for entirely different reasons. As atheist I'd rather see the cemetery land put to better use, but then it is land in worthless Ohio.
 
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