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    Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys | Politics and Law - CNET News

    The U.S. government has attempted to obtain the master encryption keys that Internet companies use to shield millions of users' private Web communications from eavesdropping.

    These demands for master encryption keys, which have not been disclosed previously, represent a technological escalation in the clandestine methods that the FBI and the National Security Agency employ when conducting electronic surveillance against Internet users.
    There could be a good reason for having them, but I would feel safer if you didn't.
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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Time to route everything through the secure servers at Sealand. Screw 'em.

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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Time to route everything through the secure servers at Sealand. Screw 'em.
    A water park sounds like a terrible place for a server farm.
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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A water park sounds like a terrible place for a server farm.
    For those who don't know - Sealand. They don't report their user activities to any country and do not honor foreign (which is everywhere else) warrants.

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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    For those who don't know - Sealand. They don't report their user activities to any country and do not honor foreign (which is everywhere else) warrants.
    Like the CIA doesn't hack them.

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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    There was a time when something like this would require a warrant, and then the company will unlock the specific user files for investigation. Now they want blanket access.

    It's amazing how since the NSA whistleblower, instead of easing back on activities, the government has actually increased them. Americans are pushovers. The power grabs will just continue because no one is willing to stand up and do anything about it. We're well on our way to tyranny, folks.

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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
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    There could be a good reason for having them, but I would feel safer if you didn't.
    I think we're just going to have to accept the fact that we have no privacy on the internet. Personally? I never assumed we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think we're just going to have to accept the fact that we have no privacy on the internet. Personally? I never assumed we did.
    We had internet privacy until the wiretapping laws. The government used people's fear of terrorism to start databasing the general public, and everyone just rolled over like a dog and said yes sir because they wanted to fight those darned terrorists.

    For the record, the government has had the technology to wiretap every phone in America since the Soviet era, but they used that technology to monitor foreign communications. Our own laws protected us from such invasions. Now those laws are gone, so tyranny is growing right on our own soil.

    Don't try so hard to excuse it as, "oh well the internet was never private". What about online banking? Conversations with your relatives on Skype? Cell phone conversations? Do we not have a reasonable expectation that our communications won't be monitored by the government, under the 4th Amendment?

    People never learned from the McCarthy era. There was a time when the government violating the 4th would cause a revolt... now people just flip the channel.

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    As true today as it's always been.
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    Re: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    We had internet privacy until the wiretapping laws. The government used people's fear of terrorism to start databasing the general public, and everyone just rolled over like a dog and said yes sir because they wanted to fight those darned terrorists.

    For the record, the government has had the technology to wiretap every phone in America since the Soviet era, but they used that technology to monitor foreign communications. Our own laws protected us from such invasions. Now those laws are gone, so tyranny is growing right on our own soil.

    Don't try so hard to excuse it as, "oh well the internet was never private". What about online banking? Conversations with your relatives on Skype? Cell phone conversations? Do we not have a reasonable expectation that our communications won't be monitored by the government, under the 4th Amendment?

    People never learned from the McCarthy era. There was a time when the government violating the 4th would cause a revolt... now people just flip the channel.
    I hear you. Gives me pause when I think of banking and other records where I'm transmitting information on line -- purchases, etc. I'll have to think about this.
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