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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

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    My solar powered south facing passive solar home.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Most of us city folk don't have much chance for this. I live in a townhouse built in 1976. I've gone LED on my bulbs but there really isn't much more I can do.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Not true, the home's orientation does not matter, a roof line is all that matters. A significant roof line position facing 180-188 degrees with a proper pitch is all one needs. It can be managed in the design it just has to be planned for; when we built our home in Nevada it was easier than for a subdivision but made all the difference in the world to have the correct azimuth and pitch for solar.

    Where the front door is - is not really relevant to a roof line angled correctly to make the most out of solar power.


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    The problem is not all streets run east west and it is difficult to orient a house to face the sun on a north south axis street.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    In Vegas?

    Do you have a roof? I know some condo's only have ceilings and someone else has a roof, and I love condo living. I assume your association pays for ourdoor lighting. The issue with Vegas is your juice is SO CHEAP that solar does not pay. Solar will cost about .20/.23 cents a kilowatt hour to produce (over 20 years). You are probably paying .12? So solar makes no sense. There are people in California paying .52 a kilowatt hour for extremely large homes so solar makes plenty of sense for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Most of us city folk don't have much chance for this. I live in a townhouse built in 1976. I've gone LED on my bulbs but there really isn't much more I can do.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Most of us city folk don't have much chance for this. I live in a townhouse built in 1976. I've gone LED on my bulbs but there really isn't much more I can do.
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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Since the OP is about given the choice- not what can you do with the more conventional house you have now- let's stay with that.

    SW Oklahoma is all about high heat and low rainfall. Most years we can go 90 days without a rain and more than 90 days of 100+ temps. So it's thick walls and window designs to minimize solar gain. I'm out past the sidewalks so there are fewer restrictions on us. We are in the planning stages for our last house. 2000 sq ft, thick concrete/tornado resistant walls, bermed 1st floor, a wind tower to draw heat up and out like in the Middle East. We are over an aquifer so geothermal is the way to go there- not everyone in the state is as fortunate as we are with a large aquifer underneath. Our own well, solar panels as a stand alone, with the ability to put a wind gen ontop of the tower. A well insulated stick house would be cheaper, but my wife doesn't like being so exposed out on the flatland our new home is to be built on.

    Now we heat with a wood stove, two are in the plans for the new house. For resale value a central heat and air system will be installed. Propane for the stove and central heat.

    I don't think you need to go smaller- just design better.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Nice in theory, bad in application...for what I want, at least.

    I'd like to have some green-ish improvements to my home (mostly because they save money in the long term, and they're tax write-offs), but I know that there are limits. I don't envision ever owning a home that gives more than it gets.

    If it was really practical, wouldn't Al Gore have a home like this instead of a home that has about half the overall power consumption of Las Vegas?

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    There are a few companies here in my province that offer solar panels for free.

    That's right, I wrote free.

    The business model is simple but brilliant. The company locks in a price per kilowatt with the province. They then solicit business by looking for roofs for rent. Some criteria needs to be met, such as south/south west facing, and a minimum slope (30 degrees, I think). The company will then put as many solar panels as they can, and hook it up to give back to the grid. The homeowner will then get a fixed rate, based-on how many panels they were able to fit. My panels are set to be installed in the fall. No matter the amount of energy they will collect in any given year, I will be given approximately $500 for the next 25 years. After that time, the panels will belong to me. Imagine getting paid for doing nothing. I love it.
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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Not true, the home's orientation does not matter, a roof line is all that matters. A significant roof line position facing 180-188 degrees with a proper pitch is all one needs. It can be managed in the design it just has to be planned for; when we built our home in Nevada it was easier than for a subdivision but made all the difference in the world to have the correct azimuth and pitch for solar.

    Where the front door is - is not really relevant to a roof line angled correctly to make the most out of solar power.
    Good points on the roof line. I was thinking more about passive solar and windows orientation, you need southern exposure for that.

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    Re: Building homes that make more power than they take

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    There are a few companies here in my province that offer solar panels for free.

    That's right, I wrote free.

    The business model is simple but brilliant. The company locks in a price per kilowatt with the province. They then solicit business by looking for roofs for rent. Some criteria needs to be met, such as south/south west facing, and a minimum slope (30 degrees, I think). The company will then put as many solar panels as they can, and hook it up to give back to the grid. The homeowner will then get a fixed rate, based-on how many panels they were able to fit. My panels are set to be installed in the fall. No matter the amount of energy they will collect in any given year, I will be given approximately $500 for the next 25 years. After that time, the panels will belong to me. Imagine getting paid for doing nothing. I love it.
    Great Idea and I am all for using existing roof tops rather than bull dozing deserts for massive solar farms.

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