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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Ok, do you consider it exclusion when they take a drink? Go to the bathroom? How about expounding on what they feel about abortion or gay marriage? Either for or against. After all, neither of those are really the governments concern either.
    Those activities are not on the meeting agenda as an official part of the meeting. Individual Board/Council members can say anything they want, including a prayer, during portions of the meeting set aside for their individual comments. It becomes a 1st amendment violation when the praying is agendized as an official part of the public meeting's opening rituals.

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If a group of teachers get together to pray in one of our classrooms before school starts, is that the school "sponsoring" or "endorsing" a religion?
    No.

    As I am very new to this site, I would tell you there have been accusations of my "wonky" thought processes on other sites.

    I will go with "wonky". If you are a tax paying resident of the locality where you teach, you own the chair and a certain amount of space in the school based upon your taxes. Your question is predicated on gathering before the official start of your duties. Based on your ownership of the chair and space, you are entitled to utilize it in any non destructive or disruptive manner you choose.

    May the saints preserve you if the ACLU finds out you are utilizing your paid for space in praying.

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Ok, do you consider it exclusion when they take a drink? Go to the bathroom? How about expounding on what they feel about abortion or gay marriage? Either for or against. After all, neither of those are really the governments concern either.
    There is no one particular thing being promoted if they go to the bathroom or take a break, neither are what they specifically doing noted in the meeting minutes. The prayer is. Marriage and abortion are part of laws, praying in the meetings and what God to pray to, if any, is not, and in fact cannot be legally part of the laws. No one is excluded in any of your examples.
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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is no one particular thing being promoted if they go to the bathroom or take a break, neither are what they specifically doing noted in the meeting minutes. The prayer is. Marriage and abortion are part of laws, praying in the meetings and what God to pray to, if any, is not, and in fact cannot be legally part of the laws. No one is excluded in any of your examples.
    So money doesn't promote God?
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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So money doesn't promote God?
    Our money should be changed, but it takes money to do that and we don't have it right now since the plates would have to be redone and the money that actually says "In God We Trust" removed from circulation, which would take a long time. However, the prayers can be dealt with right now with no money spent in changing this policy.
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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Thank God.

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm bewildered as to why anyone even gives a **** if someone prays or not...

    Would people give a **** if a council meeting opened with humming the Super Mario Bros theme song? I think not.

    This is why I view this as an attack on Christianity .... This prayer stuff is so petty that only a hater is going to hate.

    Um yea, if a council meeting opened with humming the Super Mario Bros theme, I'd be fairly p'o'd

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Um yea, if a council meeting opened with humming the Super Mario Bros theme, I'd be fairly p'o'd
    Well, I would be baffled for sure however, such an act would be protected by the First Amendment.

    It be a youtube moment for sure....

    Say it did happen - I would defend their right to do so regardless of how ridiculous such an act may seem....

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