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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    When those "individuals" are elected officials making an agreement during, or about, the proceedings of an official meeting it is law.
    No its not law..

    Are you really that "confused?"

    State governments legislate via the Tenth Amendment...

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm not going to even reply to comments like these with my own articulation anymore - I'll just prove you're a communist shill using the points of the "communist goals of 1963" outlined via the Naked Communist.

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths (constitution in this case).

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
    The point of this discussion has eluded you completely.

    I mean wow. Talk about your instant leap to tinfoil hat territory. You should try to use some of that so-called articulation of yours to explain how my taking a broader interpretation of the first amendment makes me a communist.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The point of this discussion has eluded you completely.

    I mean wow. Talk about your instant leap to tinfoil hat territory. You should try to use some of that so-called articulation of yours to explain how my taking a broader interpretation of the first amendment makes me a communist.
    No explanation is necessary - you disagree with Mr Nick, QED - you are obviously one of those radical commie types
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    No explanation is necessary - you disagree with Mr Nick, QED - you are obviously one of those radical commie types
    And it's a big secret agenda that only Mr. Nick has seen! Our dastardly plot to... not have the government use religion as the basis for its laws and thereby enforce that religion onto the entire population. How unAmerican of us.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You don't know what the hell you're talking about and a brief google doesn't do your argument any justice considering you're wrong.

    Yes a USSC justice who ruled on a subject like this "dosnt know what the hell he is talking about"


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    What's your point? Just because something may be traditional, doesn't mean it is right.
    My point is that our earliest representatives didn't see prayer opening a meeting as a violation of church and state.
    Again, why does that matter? Our earliest representatives didn't see wrong in a plethora of laws that are now considered incredibly offensive: divorce, Blue laws, slavery, segregation, women's suffrage, etc. I don't understand why we'd appeal those 'tradition' or politicians from bygone eras without considering that our society has put in decades of moral, legal and rational thought beyond those positions. Like, we don't go to 18th Century textbooks to perform heart surgeries; we'd probably kill someone. Why would we do the same for law?
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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings | The Raw Story

    A big win for civil liberties. All members should be treated equally and government bodies should not open sessions with a prayer. This is a win for a cornerstone on the Separation of Church and State.
    You mean it's a win for a cornerstone on the Separation of State from Church. Once again, it's all about the atheists and what they want.

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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You mean it's a win for a cornerstone on the Separation of State from Church. Once again, it's all about the atheists and what they want.
    I didnt know this was all about what "atheists want"..


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    Re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I didnt know this was all about what "atheists want"..
    Why do some people believe that only atheists are intelligent enough to see why there should be separation of church and state?

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