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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    If you notice, Thomas Jefferson is quoted on every one of my posts. I don't think he's a dirty lib at all. I also don't believe the actions that could have been taken as I described would have done anything to establish a religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof. Therefore the "wall" as Jefferson described it would have still been intact ie the wall of the gov't not being permitted to establish an official religion. The wall he spoke of has had a few bricks added to it by some "lib" judges in my opinion.
    By praying an official prayer on the legislative record is no "wall" at all.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Which isn't in the constitution. Its a liberal judges interpretation of the 1st Amendment and Establishment Clause. I see no issue with someone praying prior to any meeting including using the name Jesus. What he should have done, however, is require that the prayer start 5 minutes (arbitrary time, just for the sake of debate) prior to the official meeting beginning. This provides no "captive audience" arguement andthe prayer is not done in any offical capacity. Its simply a citizen calling other citizens of like faith together for a prayer in a taxpayer funded building. Of course, if he did this, we would have had panty waists saying "I felt like if I wasn't there that I was late. I felt like I had to go."
    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    If you notice, Thomas Jefferson is quoted on every one of my posts. I don't think he's a dirty lib at all. I also don't believe the actions that could have been taken as I described would have done anything to establish a religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof. Therefore the "wall" as Jefferson described it would have still been intact ie the wall of the gov't not being permitted to establish an official religion. The wall he spoke of has had a few bricks added to it by some "lib" judges in my opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    By praying an official prayer on the legislative record is no "wall" at all.
    PLEASE, read the bolded in my previous posts. You obviously didn't the first time.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    PLEASE, read the bolded in my previous posts. You obviously didn't the first time.
    My deepest apologies i was getting a lot of "quotes" at the time of this post and must of over read it or did not click on the link to your quotes of me
    After reading what you and i agre if they would of done that i would of had no problem, but them keeping it on offical record and mkaing it part of official business i found a problem with that.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And when Jefferson wrote describing that he wrote: ""I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
    And yet..... people act like this means our elected officials are not allowed to be seen praying.

    Retarded.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My deepest apologies i was getting a lot of "quotes" at the time of this post and must of over read it or did not click on the link to your quotes of me
    After reading what you and i agre if they would of done that i would of had no problem, but them keeping it on offical record and mkaing it part of official business i found a problem with that.
    Thanks bro, that was big of you to admit fault. Kudos.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And yet..... people act like this means our elected officials are not allowed to be seen praying.

    Retarded.

    You keep on moving the goal post. No one is saying "oh elected officials cant pray" what this is stating is that a legislator cant open business by praying on the floor as official legislative business..


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    You keep on moving the goal post. No one is saying "oh elected officials cant pray" what this is stating is that a legislator cant open business by praying on the floor as official legislative business..
    Wrong.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wrong.
    How so?..........


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How so?..........
    Why can't they?

    They are a group of individuals saying a prayer at their own meeting.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Why can't they?

    They are a group of individuals saying a prayer at their own meeting.
    Did everything literally go in one ear and out the other for the last 10 posts? We as a country cannot endorse a religion, saying a prayer on the officially legislative record is enterprising a religion.. That is against the 1st amendment..


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