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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, people who go to town meetings are NOT looking for trouble. They just don't want to hear a bunch of religious people praying everywhere, and the shouldn't have to either. Super religious people are just plain annoying IMO. Pray to your damn self and spare us your hypocrisy.
    Nonsense - Town hall is exactly where wannabe pundits go to look for trouble.

    Furthermore I don't give a **** if you want to hear prayer or not - prayer/religion is a protected civil liberty.

    Besides, I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense spewed at town hall meetings that people don't want to hear however you don't see them attacking the idea of "free exchange of ideas."

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Nonsense - Town hall is exactly where wannabe pundits go to look for trouble.

    Furthermore I don't give a **** if you want to hear prayer or not - prayer/religion is a protected civil liberty.

    Besides, I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense spewed at town hall meetings that people don't want to hear however you don't see them attacking the idea of "free exchange of ideas."
    Town hall meetings are not about religion. Period. Nobody cares about your religion or your religious beliefs and nobody wants to hear about it either. A lot of us don't want religion involved in our government or governmental proceedings/processes.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Lots of people and groups push for the double standard. Though I don't quite see it in this case given the private nature of Churches.
    Claiming private status to avoid having people speak about religions other than theirs, and then labeling virtually all other platforms as public is the double standard.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Ha-ha!! You've got it backwards there buddy. It's you religious people who change your tune whenever another religion is involved that doesn't necessarily agree with your religion. You want to allow Christian prayer and not any other.

    The whole situation is dumb. Just leave your prayers out of it. All it does is delay things. Then, we have more Muslim and other religious denominations, they're going to want to say their stupid prayers too. Then, the whole town meeting would be dominated by all of these useless prayers. It's so stupid.
    "You religious people"

    Well I suppose I go to church however I'm a far cry from a "bible thumper."

    I'm a libertarian and religion and prayer are protected under the First Amendment of the United States Bill of Rights and I will defend our Bill of Rights and civil liberties with my life if needed.

    So I don't really give a **** about your politics or your reasoning as to why you're opposed - the simple fact you're minimizing and propagandizing the Bill of Rights is enough for me to set you straight..

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I thought you were against pushing religion on others.
    I most certainly am.

    My previous post served to illustrate how hypocritical your position is.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    "You religious people"

    Well I suppose I go to church however I'm a far cry from a "bible thumper."

    I'm a libertarian and religion and prayer are protected under the First Amendment of the United States Bill of Rights and I will defend our Bill of Rights and civil liberties with my life if needed.

    So I don't really give a **** about your politics or your reasoning as to why you're opposed - the simple fact you're minimizing and propagandizing the Bill of Rights is enough for me to set you straight..
    Not allowing prayer during a governmental proceeding is NOT violating anyone's civil liberties. That is retarded.

    Besides, all of this prayer is just for show anyway, so that some self-righteous jerks can be like "oh, look at me, I'm praying. That makes me a good person." As if. Otherwise, they could just pray to themselves in silence.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Actually they could. It would be up to the church and its congregation to decide whether or not they would be welcome. Not so with government meetings. Government supposedly serves all its constituents equally.

    There are two answers. No prayers or everybody gets their turn. Do you really want dozens of religions to pray publically before each meeting?
    No. Which is why no one religion should speak at government meetings period.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Town hall meetings are not about religion. Period. Nobody cares about your religion or your religious beliefs and nobody wants to hear about it either. A lot of us don't want religion involved in our government or governmental proceedings/processes.
    Town hall meeting could be about religion - it just matters whats on the agenda.

    "no one cares"

    Really?

    I think this thread would beg to differ..

    Look, your opinion of what is "right and wrong" doesn't trump the Bill of Rights - as a matter of fact that's why we have a manifested Bill of Rights in the first place - so tyrants like you cant legislate freedom from others.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Town hall meeting could be about religion - it just matters whats on the agenda.

    "no one cares"

    Really?

    I think this thread would beg to differ..

    Look, your opinion of what is "right and wrong" doesn't trump the Bill of Rights - as a matter of fact that's why we have a manifested Bill of Rights in the first place - so tyrants like you cant legislate freedom from others.
    The only tyrants are the ones who want to force their religious views on everyone else.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So WTF do you care? Ignore it. People who listen to stupid ass rap music feel the need to blast it so loud everyone can hear it within a half mile down the road for some reason....... What do people do? IGNORE IT.

    There is no need to involve everyone in a half square mile in someone's choice of music either.
    And you don't dictate to others how they will adhere to their religion. That would be prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
    That is how you feel it because you are an anti-christian crusader.

    I give two ****s about Christianity, Jesus, "Holy Mary" or any of that crap..... but they have just as much right to pray before a meeting, and christians in general have the right to pray out loud if they so wish.
    A street and a government meeting are two entirely different landscapes.

    At a meeting, you are taking advantage of a captive audience.

    The very act of praying outloud is attention seeking. Prayer does not have to be verbalized or done publicly to be effective.

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