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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No... No they are not... How the **** do you get that our of their prayer? Thats a HUGE stretch good sir.

    What they are saying is, "We are praying" because thats is what is going on.
    I get it right from the article in the OP

    The lawsuit alleged that the board’s opening prayers had included unmistakably Christian phrases, such as “the birth of Jesus Christ,” “the guidance of the Holy Spirit,” “the resurrection,” and the “virgin birth.” More than 97 percent of board meetings since 2007 opened with Christian prayers, according to the ACLU
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Honestly it doesn't matter what people "think". What matters is reality. I myself am totally against organized religion and semi-against people espousing it. But I will not try to deprive them of thier right just because I think it is offensive because I do not have a right to do so. But many think that they do have that right. Reality is that they don't and in order to force thier belief they are twisting an Amendment to mean something that it never meant.
    Actually, what people think is important. That is the whole point.

    Plus, when a part of a certain religion, such as a prayer, becomes an actual part of the public record, that is wrong.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why? Because people might find it offensive? Sorry but there is no right to not be offended.
    There is when it comes to something the government is doing. If you were talking about individual people doing something privately or on their own time, then it doesn't matter at all if people are offended. But when something is being done by the government that appears to exclude certain people or endorse certain groups over others, then it does not belong in a public meeting.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, what people think is important. That is the whole point.
    No, actually in this case it doesn't as no laws were proposed during that time.

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    Plus, when a part of a certain religion, such as a prayer, becomes an actual part of the public record, that is wrong.
    Might want to avoid using money then if you think that.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is when it comes to something the government is doing. If you were talking about individual people doing something privately or on their own time, then it doesn't matter at all if people are offended. But when something is being done by the government that appears to exclude certain people or endorse certain groups over others, then it does not belong in a public meeting.
    Did they exclude any other religion? Or did it just never come up?
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, actually in this case it doesn't as no laws were proposed during that time.

    Might want to avoid using money then if you think that.
    There is a big difference between money having a mention of God on it, especially when it would take money to change that and having public committees/representatives praying on official records during a meeting, which can be changed without any money being used to just make that particular change.

    And, yes, it does matter what people think, even if no laws are actually being made during the actual prayer. The prayers are still part of public records and endorse a specific religion by government officials.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Did they exclude any other religion? Or did it just never come up?
    They excluded them because they specifically mentioned things in the prayer from a specific religion. This excludes people with religions that do not agree, even if "they don't mean to".
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, it's stupid because it's telling the other side what they "really" believe. I could write a book saying that when a fascist revolution comes, it'll be from people who read Ayn Rand and think they understand the Constitution better than every Supreme Court justice there ever was.

    Now deny it. Maybe I'm just a genius who "understands the principles of a fascist based revolution."
    Why the hell do you care what someone says?

    Do you get bent every time you hear a fairytale?

    When someone is talking **** I ignore it, why cant you do the same?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Our country is going to **** and people are crying about prayer.....

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Why should I,as a taxpayer,pay for some politician to display their religion in public setting when they can't even get that giant pothole filled on Mamareneck Rd just outside my subdivision or fix the flooding problem at the Fenimore Rd underpass (which has been a problem for years) heading toward the Scarsdale Country Club?
    You don't.

    Because you live in New York, and not Rowan County North Carolina.
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