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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Praying in someone else's presence is NOT a revocation of their civil liberties.
    No, but that's not what was happening here.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings | The Raw Story

    A big win for civil liberties. All members should be treated equally and government bodies should not open sessions with a prayer. This is a win for a cornerstone on the Separation of Church and State.

    This has nothing to do with civil liberties and everything to do with dumbasses wasting time and money on non-issues.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    - I won't apologize for people can't keep their religions at home and church.
    I won't apologize for people praying in public just because you have personal problems you need to work through.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I have the right to speak, but I can't show up at a government meeting and just start talking; I have the right to smoke, but I cannot show up in a government office and light up; I have the right to have a beer, but I can't pop the lid in a government office.....It is your right to pray--but do it at home, in church, in your car, but not in a government office....
    At least you asked..

    NO...

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    There is no concept...

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

    What is so ****ing hard to understand about those two sentences?

    That **** is easier to interpret than a Dr. Seuss entry.

    All it means is that theocracies are banned and people can worship how, when and wherever they please.

    That's all it means....

    It doesn't mean that elected officials cant pray, or that bibles should be banned from public libraries or that a group cant pray before a town hall meeting.... It means none of that....
    It's so easy to interpret, yet it comes up in courts time and again. Turns out we just needed to put you on the Supreme Court

    Theocracy and establishment of a state religion are not the same thing. Of course the whole thing is just a communist plot anyway..


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's so easy to interpret, yet it comes up in courts time and again. Turns out we just needed to put you on the Supreme Court

    Theocracy and establishment of a state religion are not the same thing. Of course the whole thing is just a communist plot anyway..
    You do realize that you're arguing the First vs the Tenth Amendment right?

    I think you want the Bill of Rights to contradict itself but don't want to deal with the bull**** if it doesn't.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Why are you denying that socialists exist in the United States and many progressives are sympathetic?

    You act like it's a lie that socialists exist because guys like Glenn Beck understand the prerequisites of a socialist based revolution...

    It's not exactly like this is the first time socialists have attempted to coup a government - people who enjoy history generally understand the social conditions preceding a coup - you "liberals" call it "progress."
    No, it's stupid because it's telling the other side what they "really" believe. I could write a book saying that when a fascist revolution comes, it'll be from people who read Ayn Rand and think they understand the Constitution better than every Supreme Court justice there ever was.

    Now deny it. Maybe I'm just a genius who "understands the principles of a fascist based revolution."


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's so easy to interpret, yet it comes up in courts time and again. Turns out we just needed to put you on the Supreme Court

    Theocracy and establishment of a state religion are not the same thing. Of course the whole thing is just a communist plot anyway..
    "maybe" you belong in a Russian gulag?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok.
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...
    For all of those that might have impaired reading comprehension, please read the underlined several times over and over until it sinks in.

    It doesn't say they shouldn't pray before the session, if they choose. It doesn't say kids can't pray in school. It says congress can't pass a law establishing a Church of America, similar to the Church of England.

    If you know your history, you'd know why. In jolly old England, there was an established religion (the Church of England was the official church of the land, and it was, during several periods in English history, illegal to practice any other religion or be a member of any other church).

    The point of the American law was to prevent such a thing from happening here, so that we could enjoy the freedom to practice our own religion without the government forcing one on us.

    Nowadays, the meaning of the law has been skewed beyond recognition, and rather than establish a freedom to worship as one wishes (as was the law's intent), the government uses the law to stifle religious expression and to force secularism on everyone.

    Not that it matters. The constitution is NOT the law of the land, the Supreme Court's INTERPRETATION of the constitution is. We all know people interpret things along party lines.... and the Supreme Court has proven no different. There is no check nor balance to that kind of power.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, it's stupid because it's telling the other side what they "really" believe. I could write a book saying that when a fascist revolution comes, it'll be from people who read Ayn Rand and think they understand the Constitution better than every Supreme Court justice there ever was.
    Let "it" believe whatever promotes their confidence.
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