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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    The Constitution says this....." Article [I]13 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "

    It does not say it is illegal to pray, nor are there any words alluding to 'separation of church and state' which is a catch phrase invented by liberals who swear it is stated in the Constitution.
    Progressives interpret "abridging" as non-compliance.

    Get the right judge (one of those judges that were backed by labor unions) and you get your ruling...

    Why?

    Because progressives are more concerned bout what government can give them than what they can give the nation as a productive citizen.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    The problem for you "Libertarians" who are so forthrightly defending the right of some small town pols to babble about their religious beliefs is that these clowns ARE trying to establish a "state religion"

    A state religion? What

    Since Republicans swept the North Carolina state government, from the statehouse to the House and Senate, the tilt right has been unmistakable. But the latest move out of Raleigh has even a lot of die-hard conservatives shaking their heads. Two representatives from Rowan County have submitted a resolution that would give North Carolina, its counties and towns the right to establish an official religion.

    You know you’ve stepped over religious and constitutional boundaries when evangelist Franklin Graham thinks you’ve gone too far.
    That was April of this year and the proposal got shot down but approximately one-third of Americans are in favour of Christianity being established as the official religion of the United States.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    What does this reply have to do with the supposed "Communist Goals" you posted?
    Are you trying to be funny or are you just being arrogant?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Prove it.
    Ok.
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...."
    When Jefferson wrote about this he stated in a letter to another church (i forgot the name), "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience"






    One day, the legislators were free to pray, the next day that freedom is somewhat restricted. You can argue the merits of putting restraints on religion all you want, but you insult my intelligence by trying to frame intervention and restriction as being something other than a removal of freedom.
    No one is saying that cant pray. They cannot pray as everyday business on the record as official "business" as the stat legislator.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Why are you denying that socialists exist in the United States and many progressives are sympathetic?

    You act like it's a lie that socialists exist because guys like Glenn Beck understand the prerequisites of a socialist based revolution...

    It's not exactly like this is the first time socialists have attempted to coup a government - people who enjoy history generally understand the social conditions preceding a coup - you "liberals" call it "progress."
    Oh god... The socialists have come into this now.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Are you trying to be funny or are you just being arrogant?
    Arrogant is way off base, my friend. Ignorant would be more appropriate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Separation of church and state, not endorsing a religion.
    So obviously you refuse to paper money.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    And they dare wonder why they loose the moderates at election time.



    We won--remember?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We won--remember?
    At least this progressive is honest.......

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You may as well say one must be an atheist to hold a government position....

    The First Amendment states that government cannot force individuals by law to adhere to any specific religion, it also states that government cannot impede an individual by law from practicing religion..

    The government is not an individual and an individual is not the government - two different ideas. The government is a collection of individuals whom naturally are entitled to civil liberties, one of them being the First Amendment, hence are free to pray anytime they want. Preventing them from doing such would be a violation of those individuals civil rights.



    I have the right to speak, but I can't show up at a government meeting and just start talking; I have the right to smoke, but I cannot show up in a government office and light up; I have the right to have a beer, but I can't pop the lid in a government office.....It is your right to pray--but do it at home, in church, in your car, but not in a government office....

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