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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Maybe that's the problem with politics.Maybe they should be paid for the hours they work.
    Just a thought.
    Maybe the problem of flooding on the Fremont Rd underpass might get solved if they got paid to actually do their jobs..
    That would be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Along with term limits,maybe politicians should be paid for the actual work they do.
    Again,just a thought.
    I really don't care what a politician does in their free time.
    As long as that giant pothole near the Scarsdale Country Club gets fixed.
    Which it isn't.
    Fine by me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    You are of course correct.By your argument I should have no right to complain when they aren't doing their jobs like fixing the roads,since no matter what they do or don't do,they are still getting paid for it.
    Actually my arguement is about them doing something someone else finds offensive. Some one complaining about something not being done that they should be doing but are not is valid to do.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    And while the peons were occupied with a phrase that doesn't appear the the Constitution, the nation burned...
    The phrase doesn't appear, but the concept is clearly in the First Amendment. Just like the word "gun" does not appear in the Constitution, but are clearly covered by the Second Amendment.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    And while the peons were occupied with a phrase that doesn't appear the the Constitution, the nation burned...


    "Separation of church and state" is communist manifested nonsense.

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    I suppose we could replace "schools" with "government institutions."

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    None of these points were made here.
    They were clearly made - they just weren't stated verbatim...

    Hell, the people who are making these "progressive" arguments don't even know they're communists and are doing the bidding for the communists.

    If you knew something about history and how a society accepts a "revolution" such as socialism you would understand that it takes progress - like brainwashing children to unconditionally accept an ideology - in this case it's "socialism" but you call it "progress."

    Same book different different name.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That would be interesting.



    Fine by me.



    Actually my argument is about them doing something someone else finds offensive. Some one complaining about something not being done that they should be doing but are not is valid to do.
    It's what I've been arguing all along.If the entire city council are Christians,Buddhists,Satanists,Muslims,Oogaboogais ts,or whatever and they all agree that they want to have a prayer before conducting business,I personally have no problem with it.As long as that damn pothole gets filled sometime this freakin' century.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The phrase doesn't appear, but the concept is clearly in the First Amendment. Just like the word "gun" does not appear in the Constitution, but are clearly covered by the Second Amendment.
    There is no concept...

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

    What is so ****ing hard to understand about those two sentences?

    That **** is easier to interpret than a Dr. Seuss entry.

    All it means is that theocracies are banned and people can worship how, when and wherever they please.

    That's all it means....

    It doesn't mean that elected officials cant pray, or that bibles should be banned from public libraries or that a group cant pray before a town hall meeting.... It means none of that....

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The phrase doesn't appear, but the concept is clearly in the First Amendment. Just like the word "gun" does not appear in the Constitution, but are clearly covered by the Second Amendment.
    Pretty weak stuff you put out... The first doesn't really cover such a concept, what it covers is quite different.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    It's what I've been arguing all along.If the entire city council are Christians,Buddhists,Satanists,Muslims,Oogaboogais ts,or whatever and they all agree that they want to have a prayer before conducting business,I personally have no problem with it.As long as that damn pothole gets filled sometime this freakin' century.
    A few posting are more concerned about people praying rather than **** that actually matters like the pothole that keeps on screwing up their rims and causing accidents...

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    A few posting are more concerned about people praying rather than **** that actually matters like the pothole that keeps on screwing up their rims and causing accidents...
    In my humble opinion,far too many people,whether they are religious or not, are too busy poking their noses in other peoples business rather than attending to their own.
    If it's not not one group bitching about people people praying in public,then it is another group bitching about gays getting married.If it is not one group bitching about some religious group putting religious displays on government property,then it is another group bitching about how their religion doesn't automatically get their way all the time.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm not going to even reply to comments like these with my own articulation anymore - I'll just prove you're a communist shill using the points of the "communist goals of 1963" outlined via the Naked Communist.

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths (constitution in this case).

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    Why are you posting the demented ravings of a complete nutjob, a man Glenn Beck idolises. Skousen's so-called "Communist Goals" came out of his rather deranged mind. The communists supported by the USSR were bad enough but the words of Skousen came only from his rather disturbed brain.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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