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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So you're comparing somebody holding a parade - to somebody using a government function to hold prayer. Two things which have nothing to do with each other.
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    The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason.

    Did it say government? No it didn't. It was a general statement against a certain group because that group is public and loud. But there are plenty of groups the person probably does support who do the same and would likely not be categorized by them as an "asinine reason".

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well Church is private property, so it's not the same. This would only be true of YOU were willing to allow theists to come into your house and open your dinner with a sermon. Which I doubt you'd like, I surely wouldn't. Take it outside Churchy-La-Femme.
    Of course it's not the same. Church will obviously find a way to invoke a double standard in their favor. So much for this thread.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which is, oddly enough, directly contradictory to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    Doesn't suprise me one bit.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Of course it's not the same. Church will obviously find a way to invoke a double standard in their favor. So much for this thread.
    Lots of people and groups push for the double standard. Though I don't quite see it in this case given the private nature of Churches.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't be daft. If you take the time to read in context, you'd understand what I was responding to. Stupid comments will get you no where, read and respond with intelligent posts which address the context. The line was "The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason."

    You see that? I quoted it in my response so there would be no confusion as to what I was referencing. That general statement applies to a lot of groups, as humans in general like to be in groups and are often loud. "The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason". It can be said against the homosexual community who have large parades and events in public. It can be said of pro-lifers and pro-choicers and pretty much any group you want. Which is why it's a bad argument, which is clear from the context of my post and anyone with enough intellectual honesty to respond within coherent and cognizant context.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Ohhhh so NOW there's a technicality?

    I figured.

    Just because it is a church, by your interpretation of the 1st amendment, does not mean I should not be able to speak or practice my religion anywhere without prohibition.
    I thought you were against pushing religion on others.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    *sigh*

    The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason.

    Did it say government? No it didn't. It was a general statement against a certain group because that group is public and loud. But there are plenty of groups the person probably does support who do the same and would likely not be categorized by them as an "asinine reason".

    Do you understand this at all? It's not rocket science.
    The context of the conversation is whether religious proselytizing has a place in government. As it doesn't, your comments about gay parades have nothing to do with it.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Why should I,as a taxpayer,pay for some politician to display their religion in public setting when they can't even get that giant pothole filled on Mamareneck Rd just outside my subdivision or fix the flooding problem at the Fenimore Rd underpass (which has been a problem for years) heading toward the Scarsdale Country Club?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Ohhhh so NOW there's a technicality?

    I figured.

    Just because it is a church, by your interpretation of the 1st amendment, does not mean I should not be able to speak or practice my religion anywhere without prohibition.
    You are correct.But that doesn't that ,me as taxpayer and you a politician,that I should be required to pay you for it.

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