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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As these adults are pushing their religious nonsense on a secular meeting. There is no difference. Both are based on one simple notion: Secular event. Your religion? Personal matter. Pray on your own and keep it outside of secular events.
    To religionists, there's no difference, but in reality there's a huge difference.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    To religionists, there's no difference, but in reality there's a huge difference.
    Religionists? Did you make that up? I think I noticed because I'm ejumacated.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason.
    You can use this same argument against gays too. It's not a good argument. The rights and liberties of the individual must be upheld.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can use this same argument against gays too. It's not a good argument. The rights and liberties of the individual must be upheld.
    Gays invite you to pray? What is it gays are inviting you to engage in at a government function? This has been brought up before but I'm not sure what people are referring to. What are gays inviting everyone to at council meetings or government functions?
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That dang religious freedom! You must get rrally pissed Muslim have to throw a rug on the floor and roll all over it.

    This is nothing but religionism.
    So then, by your terms, a Muslim, Buddhist, Jain, Jew, or even an Atheist, could come into your church and open the sermon with a prayer from their religion?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can use this same argument against gays too. It's not a good argument. The rights and liberties of the individual must be upheld.
    Using government platforms as a means of voicing one's religious beliefs is a perfect example of exploitation and a very intrusive means of proselytization. It is also elitist and prideful.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As these adults are pushing their religious nonsense on a secular meeting. There is no difference. Both are based on one simple notion: Secular event. Your religion? Personal matter. Pray on your own and keep it outside of secular events.
    Let's make it illegal to talk about football in public, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Using government platforms as a means of voicing one's religious beliefs is a perfect example of exploitation and a very intrusive means of proselytization. It is also elitist and prideful.
    No different than using a government platform to promote gay marriage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    So much for free speech and freedom of religion.....
    You have freedom of religion, you just don't have the freedom to push it on others. Try again.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    So then, by your terms, a Muslim, Buddhist, Jain, Jew, or even an Atheist, could come into your church and open the sermon with a prayer from their religion?
    Wait, now you're talking a church. That's different from a county meeting. Don't twist an ankle on that spin.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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