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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    There is no freedom you are being denied. that is a complete and bold faced lie. If you wish to do something then you can leave the room. If you wish everyone else in the room alter their work so you can do something that is a load of BS and you are just trying to force your practices on everyone out of spite and hate. Take your spiteful fascism to another country that forces it's people to pray. You are completely free to pray on your own without forcing everyone else to stop what they are doing so you can pray. The whole world does not need to get put on hold because you wish it.
    If you're the only one that doesn't like it YOU can go outside.

    Peoples's right don't get put on hold because you wish it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    WHERE? PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE RELIGION HAS A RIGHT TO SEEP INTO GOVERNMENT? Please do. You're essentially now arguing that we do have a right to create a theocracy. Which is NOT what you think it is.
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech

    Do you NOT understand that government cannot LEGISLATE religion??? meaning government cant legally force you to adhere to a religion???

    Do you not understand that government CANNOT PREVENT or PROHIBIT an individual from adhering to a religion???

    Do NOT understand individuals have freedom of speech and expression and that prayer is covered under both those ideas?



    Have you read the first amendment? Any court decisions on it? Please show me ONE standing ruling saying you have the right to proselytize at a government function. Just one?
    Of course I have read the First Amendment I've only posted it several times and just posted it again....

    Progressive communist judges will always side against the constitution in favor of the atheists... That's one of the communist goals...

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    if i hired you to do a job and it is not praying then you are there to work. I would dock someone or fire them for playing a video game for entertainment, and I would dock you for playing with your imaginary friend for entertainment. You are at a job to work. You get provided breaks and you are free to do whatever you want on your time. It is amazing how lazy some people are that they would use their faith as some piss poor excuse to avoid work.
    You would fire someone for praying at work? It won't be long before you get fired yourself, for a serious lack of personell management skills.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech

    Do you NOT understand that government cannot LEGISLATE religion??? meaning government cant legally force you to adhere to a religion???

    Do you not understand that government CANNOT PREVENT or PROHIBIT an individual from adhering to a religion???

    Do NOT understand individuals have freedom of speech and expression and that prayer is covered under both those ideas?





    Of course I have read the First Amendment I've only posted it several times and just posted it again....

    Progressive communist judges will always side against the constitution in favor of the atheists... That's one of the communist goals...

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
    Libbos hate the Constitution, bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech[/SIZE]

    Do you NOT understand that government cannot LEGISLATE religion??? meaning government cant legally force you to adhere to a religion???

    Do you not understand that government CANNOT PREVENT or PROHIBIT an individual from adhering to a religion???

    Do NOT understand individuals have freedom of speech and expression and that prayer is covered under both those ideas?

    Of course I have read the First Amendment I've only posted it several times and just posted it again....

    Progressive communist judges will always side against the constitution in favor of the atheists... That's one of the communist goals...

    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
    You seriously don't understand that the first amendment voids intrusion of religion into governments as well as separates government from enforcing a religion as it would violate the very notion of a first amendment? Seriously? Lol, spare me your McCarthyist blog. Freedom from religion is older than the 1960s.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you're the only one that doesn't like it YOU can go outside.

    Peoples's right don't get put on hold because you wish it.
    The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No surprise that don't see the difference. I wouls explain to you difference between making students pray and adults doing so on their own volition, but I know it would be a waste of time.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No surprise that don't see the difference. I wouls explain to you difference between making students pray and adults doing so on their own volition, but I know it would be a waste of time.
    As these adults are pushing their religious nonsense on a secular meeting. There is no difference. Both are based on one simple notion: Secular event. Your religion? Personal matter. Pray on your own and keep it outside of secular events.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    One could take either position however, I'm not petty like you so I wouldn't be one to complain over being docked 60 seconds of pay for a prayer. I suppose if that were to happen a person could make a big deal about it and claim their civil rights are being violated. I wouldn't personally make a big deal about it.

    If I owned a business I wouldn't dock pay out of religious spite -- you probably would tho.
    It doesn't matter. Less you can demonstrate some amount of significant decline in productivity or quality, it's a null factor. No one is being forced to pay for prayer if an employee prays at work. There are far greater inefficiencies which dominate the work place than prayer and it's at worst a null factor. Though it could have positive effects by making for happier employees.

    As for this case here, it also doesn't matter. They can have any prayer they want so long as they realize that as government they cannot act on laws of gods.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    The problem here is that Christians in particular feel the need to pray in groups or out loud for some reason. There is no need to involve everyone in the room when you feel the need to pray. There is no need to say the words out loud. If one is truly comfortable with his religion, a silent prayer is more than satisfactory. The need to do it at a public gathering is just prideful show and an attempt to be heard for whatever asinine reason.
    That dang religious freedom! You must get rrally pissed Muslim have to throw a rug on the floor and roll all over it.

    This is nothing but religionism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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