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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    WTF do you care.... your in Europe.

    Besides, a council praying together before a meeting is FAR from "turning the USA into a theocracy"
    I think the first sentence of our First Amendment outright bans a theocracy. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't want to be exposed to homosexuality therefore I don't go to gay communities.....
    I don't want to be part in religious activity while at a government function, therefor, I'm keeping my government secular.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    but when you do it as part of the meeting then everyone has to be there and take part. I want that part of my life, and I do not want to spend it sitting there waiting for you to pray. That is you and for your time. Show up early or stay late and pray. Do not put it on other people to do it because you add it to a public meeting. Yes, i have no problem with the courts kicking religion out of public meetings. They should, it is important, and it is a good thing to tell the religious to pray on their own time. State time is not god time.
    WHO IS THIS EVERYONE THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE THERE?????!?!?!?!?!?

    And... Why is it "important" ?? Nobody has yet shown one example of how this harms anyone.

    Another question.... do you know anything about Rowan County, North Carolina? Have you ever been there?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    - I won't apologize for people can't keep their religions at home and church.
    Oh shut up.....

    I bet if I said "I won't apologize for people that can't keep their sexuality at home or in their bedroom" your head would explode.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not a bitch for me, if the majority don't care than they are allowed to. I may not think they "should" do it, but I'm not saying they "can't" do it unless the state or the voters say something about it. Now a private business is different. An employer has the right not to pay someone for prayer should they decide to.
    There's a majority of people in this county that oppose saying a prayer at the opening of the county meeting?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't want to be part in religious activity while at a government function, therefor, I'm keeping my government secular.
    You can fantasize about your ideal government all you want but we're talking about reality here.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh shut up.....

    I bet if I said "I won't apologize for people that can't keep their sexuality at home or in their bedroom" your head would explode.
    Most people keep their sexuality at home. It's prudes who want to ban it even at home.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The Constitution does not say "separation of church and state," but it quite clearly forbids the establishment of a state religion. So while it doesn't say it in a positive, it forbids the negative.

    There is also no law that states it's legal not to murder someone, but there are many that forbid the opposite of not murdering someone.
    Saying a prayer prior to a county meeting isn't establishing a state religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You can fantasize about your ideal government all you want but we're talking about reality here.
    Lol, our government is secular whether you like it or not. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have made it impossible to create a theocracy. Seriously, do you understand the inherent contradiction between saying the government can't give preference to one religion over another and then say the government isn't secular? Why make theocracies impossible if it's religious? Good will? Slip of the tongue?
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Because the prayer is part of their free time and not a part of the job.
    I fail to see anything in the first amendment that says you can only pray on your free time. In FACT... saying people can only pray on their free time would be restricting the free exercise of religion.

    Why are we paying for them to pray on our dime?
    So you live in Rowan County, North Carolina??????

    Why am i being forced to sit there and watch?
    Are you a council member of Rowan County, North Carolina?
    Here is the problem,
    Yes, the problem is you fail to understand anything
    They can pray to god as they wish, and i do not need to be a part of it.
    No. You don't have to be a part of it. When someone is having a conversation near me, I do not HAVE to be a part of it either. Just sit there and quit eavesdropping on them.
    Everyone gets what they want.
    No. YOU get what YOU want... restricting their freedoms.
    You feel that for some reason people who are not religious, or people who are religious and do not practice that particular faith should be forced to be a part of christian prayer time.
    Nobody is forcing them.
    Should you have to wait for muslims to get their mats out and pray to the east? Should you have to sit through a buddhist meditation? Should you have to wait for wiccans to have a ceremony to the goddess?
    Sure if that is what the local council wants to do before a meeting.

    This is a load of crap because you and every other religious person knows that people have to be forced to pray.
    NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO PRAY.... ART THOU DEAF?

    That is why you want it at schools and in public meetings. You want those people to have to take a moment to give respect to your god.
    No..... I want people to have the opportunity to respect their god, if they wish.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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