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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only difference between a cult and a religion are the numbers. Chrisianity could have been called a cult in the earlier days. Other than that no difference.
    Now you're muddying the water in the River of Love. A cult is none the less not a religion. There is no wall between a cult and the state. Definitions mean everything, you know.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Because we're not supposed to worship any nonexistent gods, only the one true God.
    I assume you are talking about the singular we. My existant god is a nonexistant god. There are hundreds if not thousands of one true gods in the world. There is no way to determine who is correct.

    And none of the one true gods have the right to impose their beliefs on another. Attempt to persuade, yes. Impose, no.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And should taxpayer's decide they don't want their reps to do it, they don't have a right to get paid for prayer.

    Simple. If they don't like it, they can do it before a meeting off the clock.

    This is a state's issue since they are state employees. If the voter's or the state doesn't care, then they can do the prayer during the meeting. The federal sticking thier noses in this is wrong though.
    And by the same token, if tax payers don't have a problem with it, it should be allowed to carry on. Two way streets are a bitch, huh?
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Because we're not supposed to worship any nonexistent gods, only the one true God.
    And that is where the trouble begins. That's what they say in Iran too.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And by the same token, if tax payers don't have a problem with it, it should be allowed to carry on. Two way streets are a bitch, huh?
    Not a bitch for me, if the majority don't care than they are allowed to. I may not think they "should" do it, but I'm not saying they "can't" do it unless the state or the voters say something about it. Now a private business is different. An employer has the right not to pay someone for prayer should they decide to.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You'te not rewuired to participate. You can walk out of the room until the prayer is over. You're denying people the right of freedom of religion because YOU don't agree with it. BTW, the Constitution DOES mention freedom of religion, unlike the seperation of church and state.
    The Constitution does not say "separation of church and state," but it quite clearly forbids the establishment of a state religion. So while it doesn't say it in a positive, it forbids the negative.

    There is also no law that states it's legal not to murder someone, but there are many that forbid the opposite of not murdering someone.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings | The Raw Story

    A big win for civil liberties. All members should be treated equally and government bodies should not open sessions with a prayer. This is a win for a cornerstone on the Separation of Church and State.
    I don't really care if they open with prayers so long as they rule by the laws of man, not the laws of gods.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Doesn't matter. If the majority voters of the state don't want to pay for prayer, they can either vote in people that will eliminate it or ask the state to eliminate it. Nobody is FORCED to pay for prayer, period.

    I have said all along this is a state's issue since it is state employee's that are doing it. If it were a private employer, that employer isn't required to pay for prayer.



    Religious freedom, I don't have to pay for prayer. Now show me in the Bill of rights where it says I have to pay for prayer.
    Sorry you just cant "ban" civil liberties via democratic vote.....

    Civil liberties are NOT a state issue...

    I cant even believe you attempt to call yourself a libertarian when you're willing to ban freedom of religion because you don't agree with prayer......

    Go join the progressives because you sure as hell sound like one.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry you just cant "ban" civil liberties via democratic vote.....

    Civil liberties are NOT a state issue...

    I cant even believe you attempt to call yourself a libertarian when you're willing to ban freedom of religion because you don't agree with prayer......

    Go join the progressives because you sure as hell sound like one.
    Again you want to FORCE an employer to pay for prayer. What kind of libertarian are you that makes an employer pay for prayer?

    You are allowed to pray, there is NOTHING that says you HAVE to get paid for it.

    Show me the civil liberty where it says I have to PAY for prayer. You still can't provide it. It can't be a civil rights violation if there is no staute for it. Tell me where EXACTLY it says I have to pay for prayer.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post

    I cant even believe you attempt to call yourself a libertarian when you're willing to ban freedom of religion because you don't agree with prayer......

    Go join the progressives because you sure as hell sound like one.
    I can't believe you call yourself a libertarian when you favor coercing people to pray one way, favor forcing them into a particular decision about their genitals, and bet that Romney was going to win by a landslide.

    Go join the Republicans, because you always sound like one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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