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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Would a discrete Druid sacrifice of a chicken be acceptable as a preamble to a meeting?
    I know voodoo is a protected religion and those who practice are legally allowed to sacrifice animals.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Why not? Apparently anything is acceptable as long as it's not a prayer, and it would be a novelty ... for a while. Reading the auspices of the entrails might help, too.
    Morning Pol. Yes. I like the entrail reading. The added bonus would be fried chicken after the meeting. The vegans could have fried okra and old socks. I'm consistently amazed at the ability of someone, somewhere to be offended by almost anything. It offends me.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    You can do whatever you want, but do it on your own time. Doing it on my time is requiring me to participate. No one is preventing any of those people to take moments out of their day to pray, and they should do it on their time. This is the problem with people like you, you want everyone else to be inconvenienced because of your prayers. We do not need it, nor to be bothered wasting time watching you do it because you are bothered because we have more free time than you.
    You'te not rewuired to participate. You can walk out of the room until the prayer is over. You're denying people the right of freedom of religion because YOU don't agree with it. BTW, the Constitution DOES mention freedom of religion, unlike the seperation of church and state.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Would a discrete Druid sacrifice of a chicken be acceptable as a preamble to a meeting?
    Sure. I think it should probably be done outdoors, though.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    First of all, you're one of 300,000,000 taxpayers, so don't make it sound like you're a substantial contributor to our governments piggy bank.
    Doesn't matter. If the majority voters of the state don't want to pay for prayer, they can either vote in people that will eliminate it or ask the state to eliminate it. Nobody is FORCED to pay for prayer, period.

    I have said all along this is a state's issue since it is state employee's that are doing it. If it were a private employer, that employer isn't required to pay for prayer.

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    Where does it say in the Bill of Rights that you don't have to pay?
    Religious freedom, I don't have to pay for prayer. Now show me in the Bill of rights where it says I have to pay for prayer.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I didn't realize that prayer costed anything. I assumed it was free of charge.
    Not if I am paying an employee for a job and he is doing it there. Then it costs me.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I know voodoo is a protected religion and those who practice are legally allowed to sacrifice animals.
    Yup. Druids are officially designated as a cult though, so no one could be offended by a "religious" practice or rite. I wonder what would happen if they sang the "Battle Hymn of the Republic"? Open revolt and armed insurrection, I imagine.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The legislators CHOOSE to pray, and now their freedom to make that choice has been removed.
    There is a huge difference between legislators choosing to pray as a personal matter, even in a public setting, and praying in official capacity to open or close, or anything in between.

    A better example is prayer in school. Nothing stops a student praying for a passing grade on a test. This does not mean that anyone has a right to an official prayer.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You'te not rewuired to participate. You can walk out of the room until the prayer is over. You're denying people the right of freedom of religion because YOU don't agree with it. BTW, the Constitution DOES mention freedom of religion, unlike the seperation of church and state.
    And should taxpayer's decide they don't want their reps to do it, they don't have a right to get paid for prayer.

    Simple. If they don't like it, they can do it before a meeting off the clock.

    This is a state's issue since they are state employees. If the voter's or the state doesn't care, then they can do the prayer during the meeting. The federal sticking thier noses in this is wrong though.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yup. Druids are officially designated as a cult though, so no one could be offended by a "religious" practice or rite. I wonder what would happen if they sang the "Battle Hymn of the Republic"? Open revolt and armed insurrection, I imagine.
    The only difference between a cult and a religion are the numbers. Chrisianity could have been called a cult in the earlier days. Other than that no difference.

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