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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    If they are at the meeting, then they have to be involved in the prayer beforehand. It's not just about a law passed, and if it was, you'd say "Well, it wasn't Congress, so it's OK.

    I'm not the one who can't compute the First Amendment, you are. My understanding is in line with that of years of jurisprudence and rulings from people who actually ARE Constitutional experts.
    They don't have to be involved with prayer.... Using your logic I have to be a progressive to have a debate with a progressive.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Most of the people who are defending the prayer would probably have a fit if it were a prayer to Vishnu instead of Jesus.
    Probably, and the Muslims would have a conniption if the prayer was to other than Allah. Everybody is offended, and I will defend the right of everybody to be equally offended, with someone else's life, if necessary. We could call this the defense of offense.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So where in the Bill of Rights does it say I have to pay for your praying. Point that part out for me please.
    First of all, you're one of 300,000,000 taxpayers, so don't make it sound like you're a substantial contributor to our governments piggy bank.

    Where does it say in the Bill of Rights that you don't have to pay?

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your religion does not force you to pray at government functions. It just doesn't. So the government not endorsing a particular religion through prayer or otherwise is not in any way a restriction of your beliefs. You don't have to pray at a government function. You want to. Which is 1) in contradiction to the very notion of a secular government and 2) unacceptable for official government functions.
    So you're going to use the "you don't need to do it" argument. I don't need to do a lot of things, but that doesn't mean I don't have the right to do it.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How is a legislator opening up a session and on the record praying to a sect be considered liberty?
    The legislators CHOOSE to pray, and now their freedom to make that choice has been removed.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So where in the Bill of Rights does it say I have to pay for your praying. Point that part out for me please.
    I didn't realize that prayer costed anything. I assumed it was free of charge.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The legislators CHOOSE to pray, and now their freedom to make that choice has been removed.
    And that is a clear violation of the First Amendment: "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Would a discrete Druid sacrifice of a chicken be acceptable as a preamble to a meeting?
    Why not? Apparently anything is acceptable as long as it's not a prayer, and it would be a novelty ... for a while. Reading the auspices of the entrails might help, too.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Why not? Apparently anything is acceptable as long as it's not a prayer, and it would be a novelty ... for a while. Reading the auspices of the entrails might help, too.
    Almost forgot. Good morning, humbolt.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Because we're not supposed to worship any nonexistent gods, only the one true God.

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