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Thread: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    So tell me, how do you from "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" to "separation of church and state" that restricts the liberty of the people to practice their religion?

    I don't understand how anyone can find that interpretation makes any sense.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Do you not understand:

    1.Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

    2. or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

    It's not that hard to understand.

    Furthermore don't tell me about prayer because it's blatantly obvious you know nothing about prayer... 99% of prayer is silent and you cant prove otherwise.

    AGAIN you don't have a CIVIL LIBERTY NOT TO BE OFFENDED...

    MY civil liberties DON'T END and NEITHER DO YOURS!
    The prayer in question was at a government function and it was in regards to a specific religion. That is tantamount to government establishment of a religion.

    As a Libertarian, I would think you'd find the freedom not to have to pray to a particular god to be pretty important.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You obviously don't. As you don't realize that this applies to government endorsement of religion as well. Free exercise of religion doesn't extend to government functions.



    Nonsense.
    Sorry to explain to you that government CANNOT ENDORSE A RELIGION considering government is not a living being - it's a system.

    Besides, even if government DID endorse a religion that would be perfectly fine just as long as they didn't pass laws that forbid individuals from partaking in other religions or no religion at all.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The prayer in question was at a government function and it was in regards to a specific religion. That is tantamount to government establishment of a religion.
    For goodness sakes, it is people practicing their faith.

    As a Libertarian, I would think you'd find the freedom not to have to pray to a particular god to be pretty important.
    No one was forced to pray. The worst they had to deal with was tolerate a prayer.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Would a discrete Druid sacrifice of a chicken be acceptable as a preamble to a meeting?
    Most of the people who are defending the prayer would probably have a fit if it were a prayer to Vishnu instead of Jesus.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you were a real libertarian you would support the First Amendment....

    Right now you're siding with a bunch of intolerant clowns that believe civil liberties are "limited" to weather or not an atheist is in the room.
    No I'm siding with the employers right to not be FORCED to pay for prayer. If you were a true libertarian you would support the employee's right to not have to pay for work not done.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry to explain to you that government CANNOT ENDORSE A RELIGION considering government is not a living being - it's a system.

    Besides, even if government DID endorse a religion that would be perfectly fine just as long as they didn't pass laws that forbid individuals from partaking in other religions or no religion at all.
    A government endorsing a religion would be establishing a state religion. Therefore it fails even your reading of the Constitution.


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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're talking about something that takes a minute on average from start to finish and will not cause any sort of impact on the amount of work that they will get done that day. You might as well be crying about wasting money on an unused chair.
    And that prayer can be done BEFORE the meeting starts. You are complaining about something that can be done BEFORE the meeting. Why does it HAVE TO BE DURING the meeting that it is done? Oh yeah, you don't mind grandstanding.

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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry to explain to you that government CANNOT ENDORSE A RELIGION considering government is not a living being - it's a system.
    State religions beg to differ. A government can most certainly endorse a religion.

    Besides, even if government DID endorse a religion that would be perfectly fine just as long as they didn't pass laws that forbid individuals from partaking in other religions or no religion at all.
    Nonsensical statement #52662. State religion are in an incredible contradiction to even your ridiculously flawed understanding of the constitution.
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    re: Federal court halts Christian prayers at North Carolina county meetings [W:656]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Most of the people who are defending the prayer would probably have a fit if it were a prayer to Vishnu instead of Jesus.
    Make it to the almighty Satan for all I care. It's not my faith.

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