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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    In a country of over 300 million people and a city like New York of almost 10 million people, are there no other people without the hidden weaknesses and human foibles capable of serving the people in such high offices? ...If you find out after you elect him, fine, not your fault - if you find out before, and still give the man your vote, you're irresponsible and not taking your vote seriously.
    For the first question...truthfully? I doubt there is any person on the PLANET over the age of six who doesn't have something particularly nasty or embarrassing in their past to hide form public view, even if it's just that they have never grown out of being a bedwetter. The older you get, the more skeletons in the closet.

    The trick is to focus on REAL issues, like major criminality or prior evidence of malfeasance (bribery, graft, embezzlement, etc.). What a person does in their private lives other than things like I listed is of no real concern IMO. The fact that we make them major concerns is what leads to ever higher levels of criminality, i.e. murder and blackmail.
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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    For the first question...truthfully? I doubt there is any person on the PLANET over the age of six who doesn't have something particularly nasty or embarrassing in their past to hide form public view, even if it's just that they have never grown out of being a bedwetter. The older you get, the more skeletons in the closet.

    The trick is to focus on REAL issues, like major criminality or prior evidence of malfeasance (bribery, graft, embezzlement, etc.). What a person does in their private lives other than things like I listed is of no real concern IMO. The fact that we make them major concerns is what leads to ever higher levels of criminality, i.e. murder and blackmail.
    To your first point, I'd agree, but what you did as a child that was wrong or inappropriate, you've hopefully grown out of as an adult - that's what growing up and learning how to be a contributing member of society is all about. If, however, you exhibit immoral or inappropriate behaviour as an adult, you're not getting my vote, no way, no how. If you haven't developed a minimal level of self-control and respect for yourself and others, I'm not going to hope you can work your way out of it on the job or you can put it in a box until your term in office is over.

    As to your second point, I sure would be troubled that anyone running for office who was involved in "major criminality" or "bribery, graft, embesslement" had time to run for office and wasn't more concerned at the moment about whether or not to pick up the soap in the communal showerroom at the local penitentiary.

    Finally, I'm actually heartened by the fact that people at least have a modicum of self-respect themselves and choose not to vote for such people. While politicians aren't necessarily role models they are, in effect, leaders and I sure don't want such people leading in my area.
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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    To your first point, I'd agree, but what you did as a child that was wrong or inappropriate, you've hopefully grown out of as an adult - that's what growing up and learning how to be a contributing member of society is all about. If, however, you exhibit immoral or inappropriate behaviour as an adult, you're not getting my vote, no way, no how. If you haven't developed a minimal level of self-control and respect for yourself and others, I'm not going to hope you can work your way out of it on the job or you can put it in a box until your term in office is over.
    If any candidate was found to still be a bedwetter at his current age, don't you think the public might see this as a sign of weakness, a lack of control, and hold it against him in any election? We need to realize our leaders are HUMAN BEINGS, with strengths and weaknesses we all share. Holding them to higher standards should conform with this understanding.

    If we elect a man and then discover he was involved in graft, of course he should resign or be removed from office. His action is a violation of his official duties, causing harm to the system and a betrayal of the public trust. If the man is a closet homosexual, who gives a crap?? This does not have anything to do with his public office. Using the example of sexting, suppose a married couple have an "open marriage" style arrangement and the public servant spouse gets caught by a gossip columnist sexting? Who was hurt? How does this affect the spouses public duties?

    Regarding your second point, consider Nelson Mandela, who spent decades in prison for what was once "criminal behaviors." These included terrorist activities of bombing and sabotage (i.e. property was destroyed and people allegedly being killed). His side won eventually and so he became President. That's seems an extreme example, but history is replete with people who did wrong in their lives and then did lots of right afterwards. As far as I am concerned, once you've served your time you've paid for the crime...clean slate buddy.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Finally, I'm actually heartened by the fact that people at least have a modicum of self-respect themselves and choose not to vote for such people. While politicians aren't necessarily role models they are, in effect, leaders and I sure don't want such people leading in my area.
    Yes. People can vote how they choose on the basis of whatever reasons thay wish. I was only voicing my own opinion and regret that we tend to be an unforgiving and highly judmental sort of creature, us homo sapiens. I'd prefer we were better in this regard, that's all.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    If any candidate was found to still be a bedwetter at his current age, don't you think the public might see this as a sign of weakness, a lack of control, and hold it against him in any election? We need to realize our leaders are HUMAN BEINGS, with strengths and weaknesses we all share. Holding them to higher standards should conform with this understanding.

    If we elect a man and then discover he was involved in graft, of course he should resign or be removed from office. His action is a violation of his official duties, causing harm to the system and a betrayal of the public trust. If the man is a closet homosexual, who gives a crap?? This does not have anything to do with his public office. Using the example of sexting, suppose a married couple have an "open marriage" style arrangement and the public servant spouse gets caught by a gossip columnist sexting? Who was hurt? How does this affect the spouses public duties?

    Regarding your second point, consider Nelson Mandela, who spent decades in prison for what was once "criminal behaviors." These included terrorist activities of bombing and sabotage (i.e. property was destroyed and people allegedly being killed). His side won eventually and so he became President. That's seems an extreme example, but history is replete with people who did wrong in their lives and then did lots of right afterwards. As far as I am concerned, once you've served your time you've paid for the crime...clean slate buddy.



    Yes. People can vote how they choose on the basis of whatever reasons thay wish. I was only voicing my own opinion and regret that we tend to be an unforgiving and highly judmental sort of creature, us homo sapiens. I'd prefer we were better in this regard, that's all.
    You make a lot of fair points, but I'll only address the last one - America and Americans are perhaps the most forgiving and least judgemental when it comes to giving people second and third chances. It's one of the things I like most about America. But when you give a politician who screws up a second chance, let them have that second chance in another field, not the same one they screwed up in.
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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You make a lot of fair points, but I'll only address the last one - America and Americans are perhaps the most forgiving and least judgemental when it comes to giving people second and third chances. It's one of the things I like most about America. But when you give a politician who screws up a second chance, let them have that second chance in another field, not the same one they screwed up in.
    Fair enough. But if he wants to run and can convince enough of the electorate to vote him in (ala Bill Clinton), then that's fair too.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Fair enough. But if he wants to run and can convince enough of the electorate to vote him in (ala Bill Clinton), then that's fair too.
    True - then it's a commentary on the voting public more so than it is on him.
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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    True - then it's a commentary on the voting public more so than it is on him.
    LOL.. RRRGH! (John, I was gonna make a wisecrack but deleted it cuz someone might have thought it was a serious put-down.)

    Again, fair enough from your point of view. Just to be clear again, I've met Mr. Weiner several times when I lived in Queens NY, his old Congressional District. I don't care about the sexting, but I would not vote for him because I feel he is a dishonest individual trying to reach high office. That's my personal opinion of the man, and I don't think most New Yorker's would disagree...but who knows?
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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Indeed he may. I never said it was illegal. He's just an arrogant dickwit and his lying ass would never get my vote.


    I think that his worst wrong move were the lies to the press and the people......and my goodness did he lie--bigtime and with passion--:-) If he had admitted his indiscretions, sought therapy, he probably could have kept his job and some remnant of respect... G-nite all....

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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I'm sure all of these politicians would agree that their untoward actions were unwise.
    Only after they got their tits caught in the Maytag.










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    Re: I’m Deeply Flawed’: Anthony Weiner, AKA ‘Carlos Danger,’ Now Admits Still Sexting

    You know you're officially a scumbag when you get your wife to make excuses for your behavior that directly affect your relationship with her.

    I guess after being Hillary's whippin girl....this was easy.

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