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    Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    The landmark health-reform law passed in 2010 has never been very popular and always highly partisan, but a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that a group of once loyal Democrats has been steadily turning against Obamacare: Democrats who are ideologically moderate or conservative.

    Just after the law was passed in 2010, fully 74 percent of moderate and conservative Democrats supported the federal law making changes to the health-care system. But just 46 percent express support in the new poll, down 11 points in the past year. Liberal Democrats, by contrast, have continued to support the law at very high levels – 78 percent in the latest survey. Among the public at large, 42 percent support and 49 percent oppose the law, retreating from an even split at 47 percent apiece last July.
    The shift among the Democratic party’s large swath in the ideological middle– most Democrats in this poll, 57 percent, identify as moderate or conservative – is driving an overall drop in party support for the legislation
    This law is junk, we always knew, Dems are getting to know it, and Obama has already admitted it (with the delayed implementation to 2015).
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare



    This law is junk, we always knew, Dems are getting to know it, and Obama has already admitted it (with the delayed implementation to 2015).
    Even if it was junk, nobody enjoys the moral credibility to resist it. The inequities of health care in the United States have been starving for resolution for decades. Pretty much any effort at that, no matter how pitiful or harmful, is justifiable, and any resistance, no matter how wise or restrained, is not.

    As it is, the bad points of the law are exaggerated and the resistance is not wise or restrained.
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

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    Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare



    This law is junk, we always knew, Dems are getting to know it, and Obama has already admitted it (with the delayed implementation to 2015).
    Great news. I thought it was just me and others of Bernie Saunders' ilk that thought a system modeled after MA's healthcare (aka Romneycare) which itself was a scheme first cooked up by the conservative "think" tank, Heritage Group, was pure junk. Maybe we'll begin demanding real reforms.

    Fingers crossed.

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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    I agree..repeal and replace with universal healthcare.
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Not sure if trolling or just insane.
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree..repeal and replace with universal healthcare.
    That's exactly what we need. No other system works in a modern economy. Somehow I don't think the OP wants this to be the conclusion, however.

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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Even if it was junk, nobody enjoys the moral credibility to resist it. The inequities of health care in the United States have been starving for resolution for decades. Pretty much any effort at that, no matter how pitiful or harmful, is justifiable, and any resistance, no matter how wise or restrained, is not.

    As it is, the bad points of the law are exaggerated and the resistance is not wise or restrained.
    Another liberal "feel good, but it doesn't work" scheme to separate tax payers and consumers forced to purchase it from more of their pay check. What kind of logic is that? Make tax payers and consumers pay exorbitant fees for health care coverage that's "junk?"

    That's the result of the "let's pass it so we can find out what's in it" mentality. It was idiotic then, and it's idiotic now.
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Another liberal "feel good, but it doesn't work" scheme to separate tax payers and consumers forced to purchase it from more of their pay check. What kind of logic is that? Make tax payers and consumers pay exorbitant fees for health care coverage that's "junk?"

    That's the result of the "let's pass it so we can find out what's in it" mentality. It was idiotic then, and it's idiotic now.
    ... you go find someone to have that argument with. It has nothing to do with what I said.
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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree..repeal and replace with universal healthcare.
    It is what wwe were promised before the republicans took advantage of spineless blob Obama.

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    Re: Moderate Democrats are quitting on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisyphus View Post
    Great news. I thought it was just me and others of Bernie Saunders' ilk that thought a system modeled after MA's healthcare (aka Romneycare) which itself was a scheme first cooked up by the conservative "think" tank, Heritage Group, was pure junk. Maybe we'll begin demanding real reforms.

    Fingers crossed.
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