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    Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) vowed Sunday to hold more House votes to thwart ObamaCare, a major priority for the GOP as the law is implemented.

    "You're going to see a lot more," Boehner told CBS's "Face the Nation." "You're going to see bipartisan votes coming out of the House to derail this thing.

    The House has voted nearly 40 times to defund, dismantle or repeal the healthcare law, prompting frustration from Democrats who say the votes are aimed at sabotage.


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    In other words more mindless, votes, more votes that have no hope of going anywhere.


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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation - The Hill's Video

    In other words more mindless, votes, more votes that have no hope of going anywhere.
    It keeps them busy doing things other than growing government. I support that.

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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    It keeps them busy doing things other than growing government. I support that.
    Yea **** the government governing!


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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    It keeps them busy doing things other than growing government. I support that.
    In other words you support things that will accomplish nothing instead of doing serious business?


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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation - The Hill's Video

    In other words more mindless, votes, more votes that have no hope of going anywhere.
    Sounds like he is working with Obama who has delayed part of his own law!

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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Here's a clue something's wrong:

    When the law has yet to be implemented and Obama and Sebelius are issuing waivers all over the place for their big union buddies because they have better health insurance plans and they don't want them jeopardized and the waivers got to be so numerous that Obama and Sebelius had to put a stop on the waivers.

    When the law has yet to be implemented and the employer mandate has to be delayed (read scrapped) because too many of Obama's big union buddies are scared that full time employment as they know it is going to be gone as employers move to get under the 50 at 30hrs mandate numbers.

    When three years after it was voted on the majority of Americans still don't want it and Obama hasn't a clue how to sell it.

    I could go on, but you get the point.
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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Here's a clue something's wrong:

    When the law has yet to be implemented and Obama and Sebelius are issuing waivers all over the place for their big union buddies because they have better health insurance plans and they don't want them jeopardized and the waivers got to be so numerous that Obama and Sebelius had to put a stop on the waivers.

    When the law has yet to be implemented and the employer mandate has to be delayed (read scrapped) because too many of Obama's big union buddies are scared that full time employment as they know it is going to be gone as employers move to get under the 50 at 30hrs mandate numbers.

    When three years after it was voted on the majority of Americans still don't want it and Obama hasn't a clue how to sell it.

    I could go on, but you get the point.
    It doesn't make much difference to the point. Whether you like the bill or hate it there are only 2 ways to get rid of it in america. You either repeal it through the legislature, which is not happening with a dem senate and Obama in charge, or you get the courts to declare it unconstitutional which has already failed setting precedent which will make any further attempts that much harder. So until something changes these votes are a waste of time and resources.

    This may become an even bigger problem seeing as how the bill might actually do something about the insane costs of health insurance. Seeing as how it looks like in many of the states implementing it you are seeing a drastic decrease in health insurance costs to affordable levels the act may actually gain support. I was just reading some news NY rates went down to around 55 dollars a month as opposed to the hundreds of dollars that used to be their minimum. If employers can get rates like that when the mandate comes into effect it is actually good for them too. To give you an idea that is a .34 cent an hour benefit for a FT 40 hour a week employee. When you consider tax incentives and the reality bulk insurance purchases end uip being less it really is not a terrible expense for an employer to make to comply with the law, and your FT employees get health care and can stop bitching about not having it.

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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It doesn't make much difference to the point. Whether you like the bill or hate it there are only 2 ways to get rid of it in america. You either repeal it through the legislature, which is not happening with a dem senate and Obama in charge, or you get the courts to declare it unconstitutional which has already failed setting precedent which will make any further attempts that much harder. So until something changes these votes are a waste of time and resources.

    This may become an even bigger problem seeing as how the bill might actually do something about the insane costs of health insurance. Seeing as how it looks like in many of the states implementing it you are seeing a drastic decrease in health insurance costs to affordable levels the act may actually gain support. I was just reading some news NY rates went down to around 55 dollars a month as opposed to the hundreds of dollars that used to be their minimum. If employers can get rates like that when the mandate comes into effect it is actually good for them too. To give you an idea that is a .34 cent an hour benefit for a FT 40 hour a week employee. When you consider tax incentives and the reality bulk insurance purchases end uip being less it really is not a terrible expense for an employer to make to comply with the law, and your FT employees get health care and can stop bitching about not having it.
    So, right, tererun. Of course, each state has latitude to run their exchange their way. So, you're bound to see different numbers where ObamaCare's implementation is concerned vary from state-to-state. Nonetheless, although I've never been overwhelmingly crazy about the law myself, I can see some practicalities to it. As I've said before it was the best compromise the public could expect under today's congressional hyper-partisanship.
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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In other words you support things that will accomplish nothing instead of doing serious business?
    I know I sure do.
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    Re: Boehner promises more House votes to derail ObamaCare implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In other words you support things that will accomplish nothing instead of doing serious business?
    When you consider that “serious business”, as you mean it, means passing more destructive crap akin to the ObamaCare scam, having them do nothing is certainly very much preferable. If they have any chance of undoing some of the damage that they've already done, so much the better.
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