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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    As far as this case is concerned, SYG is the same as every other state self defense law. Fear of grave harm and no opportunity to retreat.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote directly from the Judges instructions to the jury:
    If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony
    Quote directly from juror B37 in CNN interview:

    JUROR: Right. Because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground. He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right.
    COOPER: Even though he got out of the car, followed Trayvon Martin that didn’t matter in the deliberations. What mattered was the final seconds, minutes when there was an altercation and whether or not in your mind the most important thing was whether or not George Zimmerman felt his life was in danger?
    JUROR: That’s how we read the law. That’s how we got to the point of everybody being not guilty.
    Stand Your Ground is why Zimmerman walked.
    You COULD say that Stand Your Ground did not have anything to do with why Zimmerman was acquitted ... But that assertion would not be consistent with the facts.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    California tried that when AZ was in the news over illegal immigration. Here a clue, AZ survived SB1070. It was also interesting that Oakland city council voted to boycott AZ. Then the police stated, hey council we have a large taser order with AZ. Guess what, the order went through.

    So to all reps of California. I hereby boycott California. I will not buy anything on line from any company in CA, will not visit the State of California, until you decide that you are not the Federal Govt. Florida voters and their elected officials have a right to set their laws that do not conflict with Federal laws. California you should get your house in order first.

    Think this helped me decide to visit Florida for a vacation.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Think this helped me decide to visit Florida for a vacation.
    Just be sure you don't let anyone goad you into lifting a finger against them ...or you may find yourself the victim of justifiable homicide.
    The trigger happy murdering cowboys have the law on their side in the crazy state of Flor-i-duh...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    As far as this case is concerned, SYG is the same as every other state self defense law. Fear of grave harm and no opportunity to retreat.
    No. Stand Your ground states that there is no requirement to even attempt a retreat.
    That's the difference.

    Anyone who wants to murder you need only rile you up enough to get you to take a poke at them... at that point they have the law that says they can blow you away with a gun and walk away a free man.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No. Stand Your ground states that there is no requirement to even attempt a retreat.
    That's the difference.

    Anyone who wants to murder you need only rile you up enough to get you to take a poke at them... at that point they have the law that says they can blow you away with a gun and walk away a free man.
    I believe the point they are trying to make is Zimmerman had zero options to retreat once Martin was on top of him which means the whole concept of not needing to retreat is moot since he would have been unable to at the time he shot Martin. This is another problem with the justice system, even though they came down with the correct verdict they didn't even understand what they were discussing.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A California lawmaker is calling on Golden State residents to think "think twice" before spending time and money in Florida after a jury's acquittal of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in the killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

    Assemblymember Chris Holden (D-Pasadena), along with the California Legislative Black Caucus, announced plans Wednesday for a resolution calling for a boycott of Florida, which Holden said has a Stand Your Ground law that encourages vigilantism.

    The calls for a Florida boycott by Holden and the Legislative Black Caucus add to a wave of anger that has grown since Zimmerman's acquittal Saturday. A day after the jury's verdict, singer Stevie Wonder told a crowd he wouldn't perform in Florida or any state with Stand Your Ground gun laws until they were repealed. Martin Luther King III suggested consumers boycott Florida orange juice.

    A petition on the progressive site MoveOn.org calls for people to refrain from traveling to Florida until Stand Your Ground is repealed.....snip~

    Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember

    So the politicians from another state are going to tell people to Boycott Florida. A vacation hot spot.....(also in competition with California over that industry). Do you think this Politician deserves to be re-elected? Shouldn't this individual be about representing the people of California? Why is she off into another states business? Why is the Black Caucus from another state allowed to interfere in another states Rights?

    Just what is the Progressive site MoveOn.org.....trying to stir up in this country? Should they be telling people around the country not to go to Florida or States with Stand your Ground Laws?
    This gets more ridiculous every day. SYG didn't even come into play. Zimmerman did nothing wrong. He killed his attacker.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    That the judge included Stand Your Ground in her charge to the jury and the jury subsequently discussed Stand Your Ground in their deliberations to acquit...
    That makes it relevant to this particular case.
    Do you have any idea how silly you sound asking that question?

    You really don't understand how a charge to the jury works, do you?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No. Stand Your ground states that there is no requirement to even attempt a retreat.
    That's the difference.

    Anyone who wants to murder you need only rile you up enough to get you to take a poke at them... at that point they have the law that says they can blow you away with a gun and walk away a free man.

    Thus, a rational person would decide it best not to be taking "pokes" at people, huh?

    Why do you think you get to take pokes at people? Why do you believe in bullyism and want to protect assailants?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    I believe the point they are trying to make is Zimmerman had zero options to retreat once Martin was on top of him which means the whole concept of not needing to retreat is moot since he would have been unable to at the time he shot Martin. This is another problem with the justice system, even though they came down with the correct verdict they didn't even understand what they were discussing.
    Zimmerman did not have the option to retreat below the concrete for safety.

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