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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I would never go to florida again, but it has nothing to do with their gun laws or this trial. When I go to florida it is not for a vacation, it is to see family or friends. Why so many of them have gone to that hell hole I do not know. Florida is nice when you are vacationing and can avoid the walking dead, but when you actually have to interract with the elderly in supermarkets and places like that it is horrible. If zimmerman had gotten pissed and just started shooting the elderly in florida i would be his biggest fan. Then there is the driving. People joke, but there is a legitimate reason florida sucks for driving. They used to not confirm suspensions and revocations with other states, so if you lost your license you could get a florida license. This is why all the massholes, connidiots, jersey jerkoffs, and homicidal NYers who lost their licenses in their own states go down there. Seriously, with all the old people who cannot drive zimmerman probably saved treyvon from a long drawn out death being stuck under a lexus for hours because some walking corpse accidentally confused the accelerator with the brakes. I would never let my kids walk on the side of the road in florida.

    I am going to quit now, just know never to live in florida. It is a horrible place of evil. Oh, and if you are ever sucked into that place avoid the Post Office like the plague. It is like Disney world filled with crack for the elderly. You think i am joking but some of those Post offices actually have signs telling the elderly not to park in the lobby.

    Oh, and yeah the idea of boycotting florida by california is really stupid.
    Pretty much spot on. I loathe Florida, and avoid it whenever possible. We are about halfway between Jacksonville and Savannah, and we usually try to go to Savannah whenever possible.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    more than a bit of irony to that one considering all 50 states have a self defense provision - the one zimmerman successfully used to become exonerated
    Indeed, it makes one wonder what Charles Mackay would make of all of this

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Pretty much spot on. I loathe Florida, and avoid it whenever possible. We are about halfway between Jacksonville and Savannah, and we usually try to go to Savannah whenever possible.
    I find the carolinas are what florida is supposed to be. They have a good combination of different types of people, they focus on how to actually develop areas well, lots of the people share the southern hospitality and responsibility along with the northeast acceptance of different types of people. The retirees are pleasant and enjoying what they can. There is farms and rural areas. There are cities and suburbs. The weather pattern is beautiful around there. Savannah would be right in that general area, and it is a pretty good place from what i have seen of it. I think that area of the country is probably one of the areas that combines the best of america. It is not like florida where all the greedy and selfish go. you have some social liberalism, while maintaining personal responsibility which comes from the conservative values of the area. You have people of all different areas mingling very well. It is america's sweet spot, and I think it has something for everyone. There are some conflicts and problems, but the people in that area are going to sort them out.

    Can you tell i am enamored with the area?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    I would say the coastal areas more than anything. South Carolina is pretty effed up in some ways, not very "blue" friendly, but Charleston is an exception. Old, genteel, beautiful. Same as Savannah. Old money, and pretty conservative, but socially very liberal. Savannah is very gay friendly. North Carolina is more the sweet spot, in my opinion. Perfect climate, positive job growth, friendly people, low taxes. Now that you've mentioned it, I do think you are right that maybe North Carolina is what Florida yearned to be but the wealthy elderly mucked it up.

    I looked into moving to Asheville once. Sometimes, I wish I had. Very artsy, and very seasonal.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Most people don't know anything about the case. IMO, SYG laws had absolutely nothing to do with the not guilty verdict. But it's a rallying point, so . . .
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    Bullshat...
    Judge Debra Nelson words to the jury:
    If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
    Juror B-37,
    "Stand Your Ground was key to reaching their verdict." neither second-degree murder nor manslaughter applied in Zimmerman's case "because of the heat of the moment and the 'stand your ground.' He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right."
    Let's at least get the basic facts right in this case. "Stand Your Ground" did play a huge role.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Most people don't know anything about the case. IMO, SYG laws had absolutely nothing to do with the not guilty verdict. But it's a rallying point, so . . .

    As for boycotting Florida? People don't do that. They just don't. Florida is a tourist destination and people aren't going to change vacation plans to avoid the state. If you've ever been to Florida, I think you'll find that it's not a popular tourist destination for blacks anyway. A buncha' huffin' and puffin'.
    Unfortunately, there are many Floridians whose attitude will be "thank you" for calls for African-Americans to stay out of Florida.

    Can you image the response if some group in Florida was holding rallies in Florida for the purpose of declaring African-Americans were not welcomed in Florida and should stay away?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I would say the coastal areas more than anything. South Carolina is pretty effed up in some ways, not very "blue" friendly, but Charleston is an exception. Old, genteel, beautiful. Same as Savannah. Old money, and pretty conservative, but socially very liberal. Savannah is very gay friendly. North Carolina is more the sweet spot, in my opinion. Perfect climate, positive job growth, friendly people, low taxes. Now that you've mentioned it, I do think you are right that maybe North Carolina is what Florida yearned to be but the wealthy elderly mucked it up.

    I looked into moving to Asheville once. Sometimes, I wish I had. Very artsy, and very seasonal.
    Around charlotte is a great area. SC does have more of the taint of the old bothersome ways in it more than the north, but I think it will come around. They just have to realize the true rebel south is not wrapped up in the republican party or religion.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Bullshat...
    Judge Debra Nelson words to the jury:


    Juror B-37,
    Let's at least get the basic facts right in this case. "Stand Your Ground" did play a huge role.

    I don't think SYG was a factor whatsoever and just because it was part of half a sentence in the jury charge doesn't change that. The comments by jurors made it clear they looked at the case rather directly and simply. Zimmerman was under serious physical attack. The photos of the injury confirmed this and those photos were commented on in why the jury reached the decision it did. There were also comments that the lead investigator for the police concluding himself it was self defense also was commented on. In short, the jury concluded GZ was under serious physical attack and shot in self defense during the violent assault of him. When someone is on the ground with another person on top, there is no opportunity to retreat - so claiming SYG was relevant is just nonsensical.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    The legal implications of "duty to retreat" has been used in other states for outrageously wrong convictions and it a law the declares that bullies, thieves and assailants should rule the world.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Bullshat...
    Judge Debra Nelson words to the jury:

    Juror B-37,
    Let's at least get the basic facts right in this case. "Stand Your Ground" did play a huge role.
    Please explain how the jury used "stand your ground" to find Zimmerman not guilty. As you know, stand your ground refers to not having a duty to retreat after violence (or the threat of violence) ensues. I don't care what the juror said. Explain its relevance in this particular case. Zimmerman did not use the stand your ground defense.

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