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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    So am I to understand that black politicians are going to boycott a state because of the Stand Your Ground law which has benefited more black people than anybody else in that state?

    Seems like a fine line to walk for them.

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    It's because they have Disney Land while Florida has Disney World. You betcha.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So am I to understand that black politicians are going to boycott a state because of the Stand Your Ground law which has benefited more black people than anybody else in that state?

    Seems like a fine line to walk for them.
    They just arent applying ANYTHING that resembles 'thought'. This is all about finding some sort of 'win', regardless if what they are proposing makes zero sense.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'll believe it when I see it.
    hopefully we'll both live long enough to see it and have a good laugh about it, ey?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    I was just making sure we were on the same page because from my understanding Castle Doctrine is dealing with your home, and the "Stand your ground" law is an extension of it to everywhere you have a right to be legally. So when you said you had a problem with Castle I wsd assuming you had a problem with someone defending their home.
    no, but with the extension ... I'd advise people in states with stand your ground laws to retreat anyway if they can ... most people will have a hard time killing another human being and it may cost them theirs ... in wars we have to demonize the enemy to make it easier to kill them ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    It shouldn't be. In the half second it takes me to even realize I should or even if I can retreat, it could be the difference between life and death. I shouldn't be punished for not letting myself be a victim, whether I'm in my home or not. If I reasonably could have retreated, I wouldn't be in the immediate danger required for me to use any self-defense laws, including SYG. Whether this law is being abused or not, it's overwhelmingly necessary to protect the innocent people who just didn't want to die. In the heat of an attack, nobody should be expected to think of anything other than the immediate danger to their life.
    you don't need stand your ground to defend yourself if you're being attacked and don't have the option of retreating safely, do you? ... one of these days I'm going to look into research on the effects of these laws ... it should be interesting, and I'm afraid disturbing as well ... but most people won't carry, most people will retreat, and hopefully that'll help to make up for some of the "make my day" guys out there ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    any age? I wouldn't leave a baby or toddler in the car alone to mail a letter ... would you?
    I didn't give an age. Do you think it matters to a parent how old their kid is if they are in danger? If you 1 month old or your 12 year old is in the back of your car and it's getting jacked, do you think you would act differently?
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    it turns out a lot of people are HJ ... I prefer requiring people to retreat unless retreating imperils your or some other person's life ... I don't like the "make-my-day" version of the Castle Doctrine ... we just disagree and the different versions of stand your ground indicate that it's a tough call ...
    That is where the Stand You Gound laws help, they extend the Castle Doctrine to you when you are not at home. I don't advocate shooting someone I see stealing my newspaper just because I have the 'right' to protect my property. I do think there should be protections if you have to do it to protect your child when you are in a park though. If we are only limited to protecting our valuables when inside the home then there is something very wrong,
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    home is cetrtainly a different matter altogether ...
    What makes it different than say your car or your property?
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    LOL ... yup, and they're blue ... if it keeps up, the state will be blue ... you had your chance to secede, we wanted you to secede, you didn't, so now we're going to take you over ... you had your chance ...
    That's the way Communism works these days [not by force but, by societal degradation] however, the Force is strong in this one.

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