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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

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    BTW, what are you thinking leaving your child in a car like that!?!? In some places you get arrested for that ...
    Really? It's against the law to cross the street to mail a letter when your kid is in the car? I did not know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Really? It's against the law to cross the street to mail a letter when your kid is in the car? I did not know that.
    any age? I wouldn't leave a baby or toddler in the car alone to mail a letter ... would you?

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    And if you were walking back to your car, exactly what would prevent you from retreating? The option you like is there without question.

    The point of most Stand Your Ground laws is to provide you with the same legal protections offered by the Castle Doctrine without you being in your home. You are allowed to protect that which is valuable to you without the requirement of having to retreat as far as is possible. I don't see why anyone would be against them given the things that can occur these days.
    it turns out a lot of people are HJ ... I prefer requiring people to retreat unless retreating imperils your or some other person's life ... I don't like the "make-my-day" version of the Castle Doctrine ... we just disagree and the different versions of stand your ground indicate that it's a tough call ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

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    A California lawmaker is calling on Golden State residents to think "think twice" before spending time and money in Florida after a jury's acquittal of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in the killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

    Assemblymember Chris Holden (D-Pasadena), along with the California Legislative Black Caucus, announced plans Wednesday for a resolution calling for a boycott of Florida, which Holden said has a Stand Your Ground law that encourages vigilantism.

    The calls for a Florida boycott by Holden and the Legislative Black Caucus add to a wave of anger that has grown since Zimmerman's acquittal Saturday. A day after the jury's verdict, singer Stevie Wonder told a crowd he wouldn't perform in Florida or any state with Stand Your Ground gun laws until they were repealed. Martin Luther King III suggested consumers boycott Florida orange juice.

    A petition on the progressive site MoveOn.org calls for people to refrain from traveling to Florida until Stand Your Ground is repealed.....snip~

    Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember

    So the politicians from another state are going to tell people to Boycott Florida. A vacation hot spot.....(also in competition with California over that industry). Do you think this Politician deserves to be re-elected? Shouldn't this individual be about representing the people of California? Why is she off into another states business? Why is the Black Caucus from another state allowed to interfere in another states Rights?

    Just what is the Progressive site MoveOn.org.....trying to stir up in this country? Should they be telling people around the country not to go to Florida or States with Stand your Ground Laws?
    What the Hell do we need to do in Texas to get 'boycotted'? Those weirdos just keep coming and coming.......

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What the Hell do we need to do in Texas to get 'boycotted'? Those weirdos just keep coming and coming.......
    LOL ... yup, and they're blue ... if it keeps up, the state will be blue ... you had your chance to secede, we wanted you to secede, you didn't, so now we're going to take you over ... you had your chance ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    it turns out a lot of people are HJ ... I prefer requiring people to retreat unless retreating imperils your or some other person's life ... I don't like the "make-my-day" version of the Castle Doctrine ... we just disagree and the different versions of stand your ground indicate that it's a tough call ...
    I see no problem with "make my day" in regards to someone's home but would if that standard is held everywhere. Prosecuting someone who shot an intruder into their own home is a waste of time and tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    I see no problem with "make my day" in regards to someone's home but would if that standard is held everywhere. Prosecuting someone who shot an intruder into their own home is a waste of time and tax dollars.
    home is cetrtainly a different matter altogether ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    LOL ... yup, and they're blue ... if it keeps up, the state will be blue ... you had your chance to secede, we wanted you to secede, you didn't, so now we're going to take you over ... you had your chance ...
    I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    home is cetrtainly a different matter altogether ...
    I was just making sure we were on the same page because from my understanding Castle Doctrine is dealing with your home, and the "Stand your ground" law is an extension of it to everywhere you have a right to be legally. So when you said you had a problem with Castle I wsd assuming you had a problem with someone defending their home.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    home is cetrtainly a different matter altogether ...
    It shouldn't be. In the half second it takes me to even realize I should or even if I can retreat, it could be the difference between life and death. I shouldn't be punished for not letting myself be a victim, whether I'm in my home or not. If I reasonably could have retreated, I wouldn't be in the immediate danger required for me to use any self-defense laws, including SYG. Whether this law is being abused or not, it's overwhelmingly necessary to protect the innocent people who just didn't want to die. In the heat of an attack, nobody should be expected to think of anything other than the immediate danger to their life.

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