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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I think people should boycott any state with a Stand Your Ground law ... we're more civilized than that - but I wouldn't boycott because of the outcome of the trial, even if I disagreed with it - in effect you'd be saying that there was only one possible verdict ... if that's the case, why have the trial? it would be tantamount to a lynching ...
    That is roughly half the country including California.

    I believe it could probably be improved but my personal opinion is that the intent of the law is good.

    The problem is that the majority are more civilized than that, but to deny there are some in society that are uncivilized would be naive.

    EDIT - just to clarify the statement above is not in reference to race.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    That is roughly half the country including California.

    I believe it could probably be improved but my personal opinion is that the intent of the law is good.

    The problem is that the majority are more civilized than that, but to deny there are some in society that are uncivilized would be naive.

    EDIT - just to clarify the statement above is not in reference to race.
    my guess is that these laws vary quite a bit ... Has anyone done an analysis of them that you know about? ... I think the intent varies as well ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    my guess is that these laws vary quite a bit ... Has anyone done an analysis of them that you know about? ... I think the intent varies as well ...
    Lol Don't get me to lie to you. All I know is what came up from a quick peak at Wiki.

    To be honest I didn't even know Mississippi had it until just seeing. I only knew about Castle law.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    Lol Don't get me to lie to you. All I know is what came up from a quick peak at Wiki.

    To be honest I didn't even know Mississippi had it until just seeing. I only knew about Castle law.
    I don't like Florida's, but I really need to read up on others ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I don't like Florida's, but I really need to read up on others ...
    I read a few articles and it seems the Stand-your-ground law is simply an extension of the Castle Doctrine. I am a firm believer in the Castle law (no duty to retreat while in your home or vehicle), I can see where there is potential gray area when it extends to "anywhere you have a right to be". I think it is a good law but see where it could potentially be abused.

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Naptyme View Post
    I read a few articles and it seems the Stand-your-ground law is simply an extension of the Castle Doctrine. I am a firm believer in the Castle law (no duty to retreat while in your home or vehicle), I can see where there is potential gray area when it extends to "anywhere you have a right to be". I think it is a good law but see where it could potentially be abused.
    I still like the idea of leaving (retreating) if that option is open to you ... if you can't, that's a different issue

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I still like the idea of leaving (retreating) if that option is open to you ... if you can't, that's a different issue
    If someone is jacking your car as you walk up you can always leave. It would kind of suck if your kid was in the back seat but the option to leave is there.
    There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.
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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    If someone is jacking your car as you walk up you can always leave. It would kind of suck if your kid was in the back seat but the option to leave is there.
    heebie ya forgot your jeebie on that one ... I said if you can ... if your child is in the back of your car, then maybe you can't ... but guess what? you might think twice about shooting the guy in the car with your child in the back, no? I don't think you even need a stand your ground law for the scenario you alluded to when it comes to protecting your child ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    If someone is jacking your car as you walk up you can always leave. It would kind of suck if your kid was in the back seat but the option to leave is there.
    BTW, what are you thinking leaving your child in a car like that!?!? In some places you get arrested for that ...

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    Re: Florida Boycott Resolution Proposed By Chris Holden, California Assemblymember ..

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    heebie ya forgot your jeebie on that one ... I said if you can ... if your child is in the back of your car, then maybe you can't ... but guess what? you might think twice about shooting the guy in the car with your child in the back, no? I don't think you even need a stand your ground law for the scenario you alluded to when it comes to protecting your child ...
    And if you were walking back to your car, exactly what would prevent you from retreating? The option you like is there without question.

    The point of most Stand Your Ground laws is to provide you with the same legal protections offered by the Castle Doctrine without you being in your home. You are allowed to protect that which is valuable to you without the requirement of having to retreat as far as is possible. I don't see why anyone would be against them given the things that can occur these days.
    There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.
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