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    Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    After days of intense lobbying, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is confident he has enough votes to trigger the nuclear option to change the Senate’s rules.







    Reid needs 50 votes for the controversial tactic, which Republicans say would forever “change the character of the Senate” but Democrats argue is necessary to fix a broken institution.Reid expects to have at least 51 Democratic votes to prohibit Republicans from filibustering President Obama’s executive-branch nominees. Vice President Joe Biden could provide insurance by presiding over the chamber to break a tie vote.

    The standing rules of the Senate require a 67-vote majority to change the rules, but Reid would circumvent that by making a point of order that senators should be prohibited from filibustering executive-branch nominees.

    This would clear the way for the Senate to confirm Obama’s most controversial nominees with simple majority votes, including Richard Cordray, the nominee to serve as director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and three picks for the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).


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    Bout damn time. These rules are due for some common sense change. I applaud you Senator Reid! Move this forward!


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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Bout damn time. These rules are due for some common sense change. I applaud you Senator Reid! Move this forward! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    If he has the votes why doesn't he just change the filibuster back to its original form? That seems much less drastic.

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Why should the Senate be so interested in assisting a failed President to fast-track nominees to promote even more failed administration policies?

    In a practical sense, I don't believe this will harm Republicans at all - Democrats will be forever seen as the party that couldn't develop consensus in the Senate and it wouldn't surprise me if the Republicans benefit in the Senate in the 2014 mid-terms.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Ensuring ease of confirmation in the short term is not worth a step of this severity. I'd hope that a number of Democrats would stray from party lines on this particular vote.

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Elections have meaning... heard that somewhere before. Presidents should get the people they wish to nominate without across the board holds on the process. Seems it isn't a matter of consensus but rather of one senator blocking the process. When it comes to nominations 51% should be the standard.

    I don't think this helps the Republicans in the 2014 elections, but nothing else has so who knows...

    What will be noted from this period is another bout of hyper-partisanship where under Senate rules only super majorities can move bills forward. When the Senate minority leader stated the number one priority for Republican Senators is to make Obama a one term president I don't see how consensus is possible.

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Bout damn time. These rules are due for some common sense change. I applaud you Senator Reid! Move this forward! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    LOL - I just don't feel safe giving anyone in government the use of weapon anything - lol - I can just see it happening all wrong. . . a Rep majority and one bill they don't read - and them BOOM - we're all dead.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Harry Reid and the word "confident" don't exactly jive in the same sentence, he's threatened to inhibit the filibuster a few times and has backed down each time. He's a milquetoast of a leader.

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Bout damn time. These rules are due for some common sense change. I applaud you Senator Reid! Move this forward! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    And will you still be happy about this move when there is a Republican president again and the same rules apply?

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And will you still be happy about this move when there is a Republican president again and the same rules apply?
    Yes.. I think a lot of the Senate rules are inherently just idiotic and slow down an efficient democracy.


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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - I just don't feel safe giving anyone in government the use of weapon anything - lol - I can just see it happening all wrong. . . a Rep majority and one bill they don't read - and them BOOM - we're all dead.
    From what I have been reading this doesn't cover bills, it only refers to presidential nominations. They do have to have people in some of these positions and the opposition to nominations has been problematic. Still, i would prefer a system where filibustering is still possible, but would require actual effort like the old way of actually having to filibuster. I think that would make it so that opponents would chose their battles for important objections rather than choosing to battle everything.

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