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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's only because you don't understand how the Senate works, and your term "efficient" is so broad to be useless.
    How do i not understand how the Senate works? And how am i being to broad?


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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't say anything about Obama's leanings - in fact, one could argue that Obama is invisible and simply jumps in front of a moving trend whenever he sees the end in sight. I was referring to his nominees, many of which are indeed from the far left of politics, law, and labor.
    And which ones are those?


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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The simple answer would be the current two nominees to the National Labor Relations Board whom Obama illegally appointed before the last election, claiming the Senate was in recess. Obama now wants them formally confirmed. Obama is paying the price for acting illegally, like a dictator, in appointing these two NLRB members while the Senate was legally sitting and the courts have slapped him down for it. Obama's other three nominees currently before the Senate are being approved by Republicans but they are not going to let Obama off the hook on the other two, and rightly so. Obama chose to disrespect Republicans in the Senate and so Republicans in the Senate are now telling him to go **** himself.
    was there any problem with the canidates themselves, or was it because the NLRB is something that republicans hate vehemently?

    and what about Obamas Current nominees? any problems with them?

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't say anything about Obama's leanings - in fact, one could argue that Obama is invisible and simply jumps in front of a moving trend whenever he sees the end in sight. I was referring to his nominees, many of which are indeed from the far left of politics, law, and labor.
    I thought he had a radical socialist agenda bent on destroying the United States because **** it why not? Supervillain motivations, after all, happen in real life.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    The nuclear option will polarize the senate even more. That's good news for me. Anything to slow down congress is a defitine positive.

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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How do i not understand how the Senate works? And how am i being to broad?
    No one ever said they had to be efficient. Sailing through laws the way they do is not what I call good at all. Most of those clowns don't know how write, that's why most of the laws we get a total ****. I'm not at all for anything that speed them up. If they didn't have their noses in so much that really shouldn't concern them, they wouldn't have to rush to get so much done ; and poor work at that. They are suppose to be a deliberative body.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    was there any problem with the canidates themselves, or was it because the NLRB is something that republicans hate vehemently?

    and what about Obamas Current nominees? any problems with them?
    Yes, Republicans and business in general have problems with the rulings of the NLRB, the Boeing issue being one example.

    Obama has currently made 5 nominees to the NLRB, the two previous illegal recess appointments plus three others. The Republicans have said they will not block the three new nominees and the two illegal appointments are still on the NLRB pending adjudication at the Supreme Court - those two will remain there until the SC rules. Republicans have said they will not approve these two - they want the court to rule on the illegality of Obama appointing them so that this can't happen again and they are not going to allow the two to be nominated in the normal process now, making the Supreme Court review moot, and taking Obama off the hook. We all know that if the Supreme Court has the legal issue taken from them, Obama will not admit he acted beyond his authority.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I thought he had a radical socialist agenda bent on destroying the United States because **** it why not? Supervillain motivations, after all, happen in real life.
    Maybe he does - that's not my issue or relevant to my comments on this thread - if you want to start a thread on that topic, feel free to do so and I might opine.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And will you still be happy about this move when there is a Republican president again and the same rules apply?
    Just speaking for myself, I'd be in favor of it. The senate should only block appointee's by the president if there is a big problem with that person, and even then they should be blocked by an up or down vote of the senate, not by a filibuster. If 51 members of the majority party think it is an ok pick for an appointment then that's good enough. This madness has to stop.
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    Re: Reid confident he has the votes to trigger nuclear option in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, Republicans and business in general have problems with the rulings of the NLRB, the Boeing issue being one example.

    Obama has currently made 5 nominees to the NLRB, the two previous illegal recess appointments plus three others. The Republicans have said they will not block the three new nominees and the two illegal appointments are still on the NLRB pending adjudication at the Supreme Court - those two will remain there until the SC rules. Republicans have said they will not approve these two - they want the court to rule on the illegality of Obama appointing them so that this can't happen again and they are not going to allow the two to be nominated in the normal process now, making the Supreme Court review moot, and taking Obama off the hook. We all know that if the Supreme Court has the legal issue taken from them, Obama will not admit he acted beyond his authority.
    those are not the only nominees that are being held up.

    there is also the nomination of Richard Cordray for head of the consumer financial protection bureau, and Gina Mccarthy as head the environmental protection agency. what is the problem that the republicans have with their nominations, besides being appointed by Obama?

    and then there is also the possable nomination of Thomas Perez as Labor Secretary and whoever obama nominates to replace janet napolitano as head of the department of homeland security.

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