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    GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) introduced legislation this week to block federal funding for schools that enforce rules that punish students for playing with imaginary weapons.






    The Student Protection Act, H.R. 2625, is a reaction to what Stockman says is the zero tolerance policy at some schools that has led to several suspensions of very young children who engage in these activities, including cases where students pretended their thumb and index finger is a gun.
    The legislation seeks to stop these practices by blocking federal funds to any school that punishes students for a select list of activities. Those activities include carrying miniature toy guns, and "brandishing a pastry or other food which is partially consumed in such a way that the remnant resembles a gun."


    Read more: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns - The Hill's Floor Action

    Ok so i think those "zero tolerance" rules are a bit drastic when it comes to "playing" with imaginary guns but i also think this bill is also a bit drastic supporting defunding of these schools that have these rules.







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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    How else would you remove these draconian and downright stupid rules from schools? Even with public outcry in opposition to them, they're still in place.

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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns - The Hill's Floor Action

    [/FONT][/COLOR]Ok so i think those "zero tolerance" rules are a bit drastic when it comes to "playing" with imaginary guns but i also think this bill is also a bit drastic supporting defunding of these schools that have these rules.





    The bill serves a purpose. Schools need to quit overstepping their bounds. Guns are actually a good thing.
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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    How else would you remove these draconian and downright stupid rules from schools? Even with public outcry in opposition to them, they're still in place.
    So the answer is defund the schools hurting the kids education?


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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So the answer is defund the schools hurting the kids education?


    Heh, trust me the schools will change their policy FAST before risking their funding. They live and breathe for Fed funding.

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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So the answer is defund the schools hurting the kids education?
    The schools wouldn't face a cent of defunding if they get rid of the rules. So if the school is defunded and the kids' education hurt, the blame resides solely on the schools' boards and administrations. Pretty cut and dry.

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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns - The Hill's Floor Action

    [/FONT][/COLOR]Ok so i think those "zero tolerance" rules are a bit drastic when it comes to "playing" with imaginary guns but i also think this bill is also a bit drastic supporting defunding of these schools that have these rules.





    I'm split. On the one hand, I think those zero tolerance policies are really stupid. On the other hand, I don't think the Federal Government should be often dictating policy to local schools. And while I'm sure any school who had a zero tolerance policy would change it in light of this bill if it were passed, on the off chance that one did not defunding is an excessive punishment.
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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Grandstanding through and through. These types of rules should be combated, but in their respective districts, and not with the threat of defunding the school. Talk about tossing the baby out with the bath water!

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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'm split. On the one hand, I think those zero tolerance policies are really stupid. On the other hand, I don't think the Federal Government should be often dictating policy to local schools. And while I'm sure any school who had a zero tolerance policy would change it in light of this bill if it were passed, on the off chance that one did not defunding is an excessive punishment.
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    Re: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

    Grandstanding. And I applaud him for it. It won't go anywhere but maybe the publicity will send out a message.

    Schools have become utterly bizarre in their policies. Expelling for reasons like possession of an aspirin, eating your donut to a gun shape, saying I love you between 8 year olds? It's completely ****ing nuts and some sense of reasonableness must be found. Kids are humans, not robots. Bringing a gun to school and holding 2 fingers out as an imaginary gun are actually 2 different things. It's not like our school system has done such a great job that we can allow their nutty administrators their little pleasures of being utter dorks.

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