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Sarah Palin considering Senate Run

If she can figure out a`way of turning it into some serious cash, she'll run ... it won't cost her anything to run because she's been milking cons of their cash for over five years now and they'll pay for her campaign ... the woman is a cash hound ... SHOW ME DA MONEY!!! :2dancing:
 
MMC said:
Heya CJ :2wave: Actually I think Sarah just wanted to make the sweat break out Begbitch and Good OL Harry's Foreheads. Especially with those Demo Senators seats ready to fall off the edge. You know.....the reason Obama is pulling back on his signature legislation. So they at least have a chance to hold their seats. ;)
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Good evening MMC

The Democrats are in trouble in the Senate - there only hope is if the Republicans primary out electable candidates.
 
MMC said:
Heya Rocket
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Imagine that .....and here we said the same thing about Obama as a Illinois State Senator. Talk about one of the most useless Illinois Politicians that had ever come along. :lol: Even the Democrats around here didn't have much to do with him.

Course when looking at Illinois.....we never underestimate the sheer dumbness of our Voters. Especially in Chicago. :mrgreen:
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Or maybe because here in IL the voters' only choices between are crook A and crook B :)
 
rocket88 said:
When a politician moves to a higher office, that's one thing. They do that all the time. When they quit to be on TV, that's different...

I know the line about the left-wing attack machine, but I don't buy it. Other politicians are routinely attacked by the other side. Think there's no frivolous right-wing lawsuits against Obama? Of course there are. What would you be saying if he resigned the Presidency to be a highly paid lobbyist? It was a BS political reason.

It's not like getting elected to Senate is a place to keep a low profile either. She couldn't take the heat of a high national profile, yet she craves the spotlight of it.
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Why would running for a higher office, without resigning first, give you more comfort than resigning to pursue another course in life? You must have a pretty high opinion of politicians - I generally think they're mostly as self-centered and egotistical as pretty much any successful person. The difference for me is that I'd rather see someone seeking higher office from a current office to resign their current seat and run, not hold onto their seat, use the perks of that office, the comfort of that fallback position, and if they lose just slink back into the position they held.

Doesn't matter to me what party it is - I have the same criticism of McCain, when he ran for President, Governor Perry, when he ran for the nomination, etc. etc. Why should the American people keep giving you a salary to perform particular duties in an office you hold while you snub your nose at the people who voted you in and run for an office you think is more worthy of your time?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
no i think rod blagoivitch fits the role of dumbest politicians from illinois.
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Man, you got that right!! He was crooked AND stupid. But IL has always had crooked politics dating back to the days when we were just a territory. If nothing else, we are consistent.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
care to share your oppinion as to why the democrats are in trouble in the senate?

i started a thread a while back on the topic in case you want to discuss it: http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-elections/164381-2014-senate-races.html#post1062036814
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1. Obama's not on the ballot

2. 21 Democrats and 14 Republican seats being contested

3. 6 Democrat incumbents are retiring, several in red states, against only 2 Republicans, in red states

4. Several Democrat incumbents are in states that voted for Romney/McCain

5. Like in 2010, the American public will likely be in a mood to send Washington, the White House, and incumbents a serious message.
 
CanadaJohn said:
1. Obama's not on the ballot

2. 21 Democrats and 14 Republican seats being contested

3. 6 Democrat incumbents are retiring, several in red states, against only 2 Republicans, in red states

4. Several Democrat incumbents are in states that voted for Romney/McCain

5. Like in 2010, the American public will likely be in a mood to send Washington, the White House, and incumbents a serious message.
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I agree with most of those. I still think the Democrats have a slight edge in holding on since the GOP needs to flip six seats, but it certainly is possible for the Republicans to take it.
 
ELNOR said:
Or maybe because here in IL the voters' only choices between are crook A and crook B :)
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That's why it's just the question of which outfit. Despite being all on the same team. :lol:

The Capone syndicate became the intermediaries between City Hall and the underworld,” says Lombardo. “That money [from organized crime] was used to fund the Cook County Democratic Party all the way up to the time of Richard J. Daley, [who] did not cooperate at all with the Mob, though he didn’t move against it, either.”

The machine retooled. Corruption continued to thrive locally, in part because the Democratic machine proved remarkably adaptable. “The constituents of the machine have changed,” says Merriner. “It used to be city and county payrollers and organized labor.” But the Shakman decrees curbed patronage, and the nature of politics changed. Being able to field a large army of precinct workers to get out the vote became less important than funding political campaigns to get out the message. “If you look at the contributors to Richard M. Daley, it’s lawyers and accountants and developers,” says Merriner. “They are the undergirders of the machine.”

Of course, most generous donors don’t give merely out of purity of heart. “Those large sums of money from all kinds of special interests—they’re invested for a purpose,” says Adlai Stevenson III, the former U.S. senator and two-time unsuccessful candidate for governor of Illinois. “Who’s going to invest in an honest politician?” Many donors expect to be rewarded with lucrative contracts, changes in policies that favor their interests, or other politically directed largesse. Until last year, Illinois was one of just a handful of states with almost no limits on campaign contributions, creating “tremendous potential for legalized bribery,” says Steger. Critics of the campaign finance reform passed last year by the General Assembly say Illinois remains the Wild West of campaign finance.

It’s all in the family. The Daleys are the most visible example of another characteristic of local government: It’s a family business (with friends welcome, too). Just as the Flying Wallendas have their high wire, the Daleys have their government positions—as do the Strogers and the Madigans and the Hyneses. But it’s not just the dynasties for which public office has become a birthright. “I’m talking about the people whose grandfathers were precinct captains, and now they’re precinct captains,” says Dominic Pacyga, a political science professor at Columbia College. “The father worked for the waterworks; now his kids work for the waterworks; and his grandchildren are getting ready to work for the waterworks—or the fire department or the police department. So you get these families that have controlled large swaths of the city for a long time. It reaches way down deep into the political system, and it maintains itself. When you’re in power for so long, the downside of this autocracy is corruption and a system that begins to fail the people.”

Complexity is the devil’s handiwork. Owing to historical factors, Illinois developed a labyrinthine governmental structure that offered fertile ground in which corruption could sprout. The Illinois constitution of 1870, in effect until 1970, limited the amount of debt counties and municipalities could carry and taxes they could levy. When cities needed to fund improvements, they got around those constraints by creating new units of government with the capacity to borrow—a library district, for example, would be created to build and administer a new library. “The 1870 constitution almost forced you into multiple units of government if you were going to deliver services beyond your municipality or modernize your municipality,” says Redfield. Today the state contains almost 7,000 separate governmental fiefs—far more than any other state—ranging from counties, towns, and school and fire districts to water reclamation and mosquito abatement districts. Most have budgets to protect and authority to wield. “It’s very hard to stay on top of it all, and it creates many more opportunities for patronage,” says Cindi Canary. “It creates ways for small islands of graft and corruption to stay hidden.”

The target is soft. Money seems to be at the root of almost every public corruption scandal that bursts into the news. And despite some minor tweaks to campaign finance and ethics laws, Illinois remains a place where campaign contributions can serve as legal graft and politicians still operate brazenly under troubling conflicts of interest. Despite the incremental ethics reforms, “we [still] have very, very weak to nonexistent disclosure and conflict-of-interest laws,” says Don Rose. And the resulting clouted contracts and conflicts of interest “would be called corruption by most definitions, except that it’s quite legal here,” he adds. Meanwhile, state and local prosecutors continue to lack important tools that their counterparts in most other states have, including the ability to deploy hidden listening devices in corruption investigations.

In short, the system allows wide latitude for misbehavior and misconduct with little threat of accountability. “If you’re a burglar and there’s a fancy house with its door wide open and nobody is around, it’s a lot easier [to rob it] than if there’s a security fence and bars on the window,” says Gary MacDougal. Think of Illinois as that vulnerable house—its doors ajar and no one keeping watch over the loot.

The hen house is guarded—by wolves. Where are the public servants leading the charge to tighten this loose and leaky system? If such leaders exist, their voices are muffled. In Illinois, a handful of autocrats wield enormous power and brook little dissent. “States with strong political party organizations—like Illinois, New Jersey, and New York—have long resisted political reforms that would create transparency and limit the power of incumbents to get reelected,” says DePaul’s Steger.

When he wasn’t bulldozing Meigs Field, Mayor Daley was routinely steamrolling the Chicago City Council. And Mike Madigan, the longtime speaker of the Illinois House of Representatives, has exerted an iron grip on the state Democratic Party and legislative process. Under the state’s legislative rules, no bill can make it to the floor of the House without the speaker’s OK or to the floor of the Senate without approval from that chamber’s president. This centralized authority “enables party leaders to reward loyalists and penalize dissidents,” Steger says, adding that it also allows party leaders to “have a veto over any reforms that might weaken the party control over government.”.....snip~

Why Is Illinois So Corrupt?
 
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I hope she runs. And loses in the primary. Badly. Get the white trash,trailer park element out of the party.
 
You guys can make fun of here all you want. Her strongest selling point is that she is a real person. Not some power maniac with life long ambitions of political power. She understands what the people really want and need.

We all have faults. How many of you wouldn't be made to look worse than her if you had the media and enemies looking for dirt on you?
 
Lord of Planar said:
You guys can make fun of here all you want. Her strongest selling point is that she is a real person. Not some power maniac with life long ambitions of political power. She understands what the people really want and need.

We all have faults. How many of you wouldn't be made to look worse than her if you had the media and enemies looking for dirt on you?
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Nobody really had to look for dirt on her. She kind of muddied herself up all on her own. :lol:
 
Lord of Planar said:
You guys can make fun of here all you want. Her strongest selling point is that she is a real person.
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And don't forget "Real American".

Honestly, the Palin apologists are reminiscent of the Black Knight.
 
Lord of Planar said:
You guys can make fun of here all you want. Her strongest selling point is that she is a real person. Not some power maniac with life long ambitions of political power. She understands what the people really want and need.

We all have faults. How many of you wouldn't be made to look worse than her if you had the media and enemies looking for dirt on you?
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If you changed "She understands what the people really want and need" to "She knows how to completely rile up the wacko far-right wingers and teabaggers"....you would be right.
 
disneydude said:
If you changed "She understands what the people really want and need" to "She knows how to completely rile up the wacko far-right wingers and teabaggers"....you would be right.
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You know what i love about her?

Liberals hate her!

She's got to be doing something right for liberals and RINO's both to hate her.
 
Lord of Planar said:
You know what i love about her?

Liberals hate her!

She's got to be doing something right for liberals and RINO's both to hate her.
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Liberals dont hate her, they love her! She is almost the perfect candidate to run against... self destructive with massive amount of baggage... plus has the intelligence of a gnat.
 
PeteEU said:
Liberals dont hate her, they love her! She is almost the perfect candidate to run against... self destructive with massive amount of baggage... plus has the intelligence of a gnat.
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Well people are speculating Rick Perry might run for prez again.....
 
I love how certain people around here think Sarah is some sort of threat to the democrats. She is the grizzly mama and she has dems running scared. yeah, perhaps they are scared they might wet themselves with laughter.

Sarah is not going to run. if she wanted to be in politics she would have stayed as governor. Sarah realized if she finished her term her popularity would have been **** by the time she ended. Even if you think she was great in Alaska after a few years no one would remember her because no one but alaska pays attention to the governor of Alaska. She had to use her popularity from her VP run when she was hot, and that is what she did. if she wanted to run for something her best time was when she was hot. Now she is just some faux news person with some loyal fanboys. It is great for getting some ratings and perhaps a TV contract with faux, but how many of those fanboys are able to vote in Alaska senate elections?

this is what Sarah does. She is like some tease who keeps telling you she is going to put out if only you give her just a little more time. meanwhile every time she is in a place to commit to it she has a headache, or she just isn't ready yet. No no, but keep on being a fanboy and send some money to sarahPAC and maybe she will decide to run. This is how she strings along her fanboys. Oh yeah, there is sarah sticking it to those dems by threatening them with her running in the next election. There they are wetting themselves. they are so afraid they are laughing out of control. it makes her fans think that they are winning, but the reality is she would never even win a primary in her own party after what she has done. She is just there to toss her small legion of fans at a candidate, and to toss insults at the dems.

But don't let me step in the way of any of her fanboys. No really, people are afraid of sarah. You keep telling yourself how scary she is and maybe someday it might come true. Oh, and don't be too disappointed when she decides it just is not time again.
 
Top Cat said:
And don't forget "Real American".

Honestly, the Palin apologists are reminiscent of the Black Knight.
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Palin "apologists" realize she has faults and like her nonetheless. Obama "apologists", on the other hand, don't believe he has any faults, making them the pathetic creatures they are.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good evening MMC

The Democrats are in trouble in the Senate - there only hope is if the Republicans primary out electable candidates.
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As much trouble as the Dems were in November of 2012? I remember predictions of a Romney landslide and worse and it scared the heck out of me. Is this going to be even worse?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Palin "apologists" realize she has faults and like her nonetheless. Obama "apologists", on the other hand, don't believe he has any faults, making them the pathetic creatures they are.
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CJ, you know this isn't true ... Why do you persist on posting this same post day after day, week after week, month after month ... for at least two years now? That truly is pathetic ...
 
Superfly said:
Nobody really had to look for dirt on her. She kind of muddied herself up all on her own. :lol:
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then why was so much effort put forth to dig up dirt on her?

part of the reason she quit was because of the shear amount of public records requests from folks looking to dig up dirt ( along with the costs incurred to her personally and the state, for battling alleged ethics violations).
wiki notes that 239 requests were made.. 189 after she was chosen as McCains running mate... that's a lot of requests that state attorneys had to sift through and decide on.
(it was entertaining when her emails were released.... and there was no evil "dirt" was found... partisan witchhunts are entertaining to me, especially when they end in a whimper instead of a bang))

her being chosen as a running mate is what ultimately doomed her governorship
 
disneydude said:
Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin is making political waves with a hint that she’ll run for a Senate seat representing Alaska.

“I’ve considered it because people have requested me considering it,” the former Alaska governor told radio-show host Sean Hannity on Tuesday. She said that Alaska Democrat Sen. Mark Begich – up for re-election in 2014 – “has got to be replaced.”




Sarah Palin considering Senate run - Capitol Report - MarketWatch



Sarah Palin....the gift that just keeps giving!!!! Run Sarah Run!
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I would greatly prefer that she run for president on a third party ticket. I that is not going to happen, this may be the next best thing.
 
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