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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    I believe homosexual sex and heterosexual sex are equal as sin goes, and both are sins if you are not married. The difference is I can get married and sex is no longer a sin. Homosexuals cannot marry, so....
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    Is it OK to be gay so long as you remain closeted and celibate?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I believe homosexual sex and heterosexual sex are equal as sin goes, and both are sins if you are not married. The difference is I can get married and sex is no longer a sin. Homosexuals cannot marry, so....
    ....so all Christians should support gay marriage in order to save the gays from sin.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

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    Actually it is called an abomination.
    Nope. The bible never says homosexuality is an abomination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Nope. The bible never says homosexuality is an abomination.
    It does say that there are unicorns, it rains frogs and some dead guy nailed to a stick 2000 years ago will come back to life and rule the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Then you clearly don't understand the Bible.
    Imagine that. People who don't agree with you don't understand the Bible. That must be rather convenient for your world view. You get to personally dictate who is right and wrong about a book you had no part in writing, editing, or putting together. I've known quite a few people who have made it their life to study the Bible and trust me, people like yourself have but a drop in the bucket understanding of the Bible. Your comments on this forum indicate as much because one thing that study of the Bible negates is the kind of self righteous certitude that you exhibit. I actually pity how oblivious you are to the effects of your own egotism.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    This is just wrong but i'm going to put this so both sides cant refute why is the state government putting restrictions on a religion a separation of church and state. Its in the bill of rights freedom of religion why does a state get to have any say what goes on in a church if it does not infringe on other rights .

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Actually it is called an abomination.
    You don't know what that word means then.

    According to the Bible, eagles are an abomination:

    13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
    Leviticus 11:13-11:13 KJV - And these are they which ye shall have - Bible Gateway

    According to Deuteronomy, remarriage after a divorce is an abomination Deuteronomy 24:2-24:4 NASB - and she leaves his house and goes and - Bible Gateway, yet the law permits that.

    "Abomination" is a translation of a few different Hebrew words that have slightly different meanings, and none of them carry exactly the same meaning as the English word "abomination."


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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You don't know what that word means then.

    According to the Bible, eagles are an abomination:

    Leviticus 11:13-11:13 KJV - And these are they which ye shall have - Bible Gateway

    According to Deuteronomy, remarriage after a divorce is an abomination Deuteronomy 24:2-24:4 NASB - and she leaves his house and goes and - Bible Gateway, yet the law permits that.

    "Abomination" is a translation of a few different Hebrew words that have slightly different meanings, and none of them carry exactly the same meaning as the English word "abomination."
    Making up unique definitions of a word and expecting everyone else to just accept it as an abomination.
    Telling people that the Bible can only be defined as you see fit, then taking out parts of it to prove an unprovable point is an abomination.

    at least, according to my definition of abomination.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Leviticus 11:9-12
    King James Version (KJV)
    9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

    10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

    11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

    12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

    Shellfish, many other amphibians aside from frogs, and aquatic reptiles are also abominations, don't forget.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Making up unique definitions of a word and expecting everyone else to just accept it as an abomination.
    Telling people that the Bible can only be defined as you see fit, then taking out parts of it to prove an unprovable point is an abomination.

    at least, according to my definition of abomination.
    Well, nobody's making up a definition. It's just one of those nuances that gets lost in translation and then misunderstood. By the definition of the English word "abomination" he's got a point. But the Bible wasn't written in English. Most of the English translations of the Bible are translated from Greek or Latin, which are themselves translations. When you've got a translation of a translation, things are going to get lost.


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