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    Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    And you continue to try to save face. I just proved you completely wrong, deal with it. If you have an actual argument I will respond to you. If not have fun talking to yourself.
    You recited a stupid theory. If you think that's "proving someone wrong", you are too irrational for me to want to engage in discussion, anyway, so your moving on to find someone down at your own level to engage is a good idea.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It directly speaks to it as sin and even says homosexuals will not enter into heaven.
    Interesting. Which chapter and verse was that again?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Except God said it. That is the proof. Eyewitness testimony as well by Paul.
    You can't prove God said anything. And as I said, eyewitness testimony is some of the least reliable on the planet, particularly when it comes from someone who wasn't even there.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Degradation of society and increase in immorality.
    "Degradation of society" cannot be proven and morality (as well as immorality) are subjective. It must be measurable harm. Not what you simply see as bad.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Well the first murder was with the first family, that God (of the Bible) actually created, and He made the rules about the murder, so yes.
    You cannot prove this.

    Murder is a crime because it is defined as a crime. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being. It can only be against the law, otherwise, it isn't murder.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The evolutionary benefit of homosexuals not passing on their genes to future generations, huh? I suppose if you want to go there, you can go there. But otherwise, there is no evolutionary befit. Someone should take you aside and tell you how evolution works.
    Passing on genes is not as simple as every single person must have children. It can also be relatives helping to ensure that children within their families live to pass on shared family traits/genes.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Interesting. Which chapter and verse was that again?
    1 Coritinthians Chapter 6 I believe.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You cannot prove this.

    Murder is a crime because it is defined as a crime. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being. It can only be against the law, otherwise, it isn't murder.
    Can't prove it? It's documented.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    1 Coritinthians Chapter 6 I believe.
    King James Version: 1 Corinthians Chapter 6

    1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
    2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
    3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
    4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
    5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
    6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
    7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
    8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
    9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
    12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
    13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
    14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
    15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
    16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
    17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
    18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
    19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
    20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
    Something about judging, a bit about fornication, nothing about homosexuality. Must be somewhere else.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    King James Version: 1 Corinthians Chapter 6



    Something about judging, a bit about fornication, nothing about homosexuality. Must be somewhere else.
    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, not drunkards, not abusive persons, not swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And some of you were these things, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus[c] and by the Spirit of our God. (Lexham English Bible)
    The word homosexual did not exist when the KJV was translated.
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