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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    And if their free will was to choose to write what God told them to?
    You can't prove it was. You can't even prove that God talked to them. All you have is their word on it, nothing more.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    And if their free will was to choose to write what God told them to?
    We don't know what their free choice was.

    People being as they are, I assume that there's more than a few personal prejudices in there.


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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Jesus did not command us, or even lead by example, to ignore one's sin. Just saying.

    This is what happens when people try to pick and choose pieces of the Bible to support their claims.

    So - do you eat lobsters or crabs?

    Do you wear garments of more than one nature/plant/source?

    Which is it? LEVITICUS 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard." OR 1 Corinthians 11:14 "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?"


    Every single person who claims to follow the precepts of the Bible faithfully is picking and choosing the bits they like. Your own words in this and other threads illustrate this process quite nicely
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They don't.
    That's why it's a choice.
    I have said before, men have free will. This doesn't mean, however, that according to God's Word that the choices they make are the right choices.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Also not what I said.
    No, what you said was:

    Actually that is a pretty big spin. The Bible also says that not all of Jesus quotes were recorded. That being said, he did not have to list every sin in his words, it was not necessary seeing as it is in other passages clearly.
    So, so we go by the sins that were recorded, or do we get to extrapolate and attribute to Jesus words that were never recorded?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I have said before, men have free will. This doesn't mean, however, that according to God's Word that the choices they make are the right choices.
    of course not.
    Getting married may or may not be the right choice.
    Being born gay is not a choice at all.
    Acting on sexual attraction may or may not be the right choice.
    Your sexual orientation is not a choice.

    We all make choices, some good and some not so good. The bottom line is that we are free to make our own choices, not to make choices for other people. As long as your choices don't affect me, I have no right to say you must do this, you may not do that. As long as my choices don't affect you, you have no right to say I must do this, or may not do that.

    and the purpose of government is to protect our god given rights, and not to impose your choices on others by force of law.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So - do you eat lobsters or crabs?

    Do you wear garments of more than one nature/plant/source?

    Which is it? LEVITICUS 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard." OR 1 Corinthians 11:14 "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?"


    Every single person who claims to follow the precepts of the Bible faithfully is picking and choosing the bits they like. Your own words in this and other threads illustrate this process quite nicely
    New Testament negated the need for the dietary laws.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, what you said was:



    So, so we go by the sins that were recorded, or do we get to extrapolate and attribute to Jesus words that were never recorded?
    Jesus recorded words don't makeup the entire Bible.....
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Jesus recorded words don't makeup the entire Bible.....
    So, now we're back to the words that actually were recorded, and the ones that weren't are just speculation?
    What words were recorded indicating that it is a sin to be born gay?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, now we're back to the words that actually were recorded, and the ones that weren't are just speculation?
    What words were recorded indicating that it is a sin to be born gay?
    I said homosexuality is a sin. And FYI Chrsitians believe that everyone is a sinner.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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