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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Eh? You lost me.

    I think the OPs article was written by someone who misinterpreted the bill. I don't think it was malicious. I think they saw ill intent where there was none and they sensationalized something that was actually rather mundane. Unfortunately this misinformation is going to get a lot of gay rights activists heated under the collar and they are going to go spouting off about a non issue.
    Like I said, funny how these freedom loving people got laws defining other people's freedom passed a couple of decades ago................

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Like I said, funny how these freedom loving people got laws defining other people's freedom passed a couple of decades ago................
    A different time. That was after DOMA was passed and before a single state had same sex marriage. There is also nothing inherently evil about a state criminalizing the act of providing false information on a formal state document, even if the intent was to deter same sex couples from filing out of protest.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

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    A different time. That was after DOMA was passed and before a single state had same sex marriage. There is also nothing inherently evil about a state criminalizing the act of providing false information on a formal state document, even if the intent was to deter same sex couples from filing out of protest.
    If you can justify that string of malevolent criminal behavior, than anything goes...............................

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    I'm highly skeptical if any information about gay marriage from a blog that has the obvious goal of promoting gay marriage.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This story is a fabrication for a couple of reasons.

    1. The law has been in effect since the late 90s. The current changes are only to classifications.
    2. The violation is providing false information on the marriage license application. A clergy can perform a same sex marriage ceremony. They just can't try to have the marriage recognized by the state.

    Be wary of sites that do not source the actual bill.
    It seems the law is prejudiced by nature. What is being described is covered by fraud. We already have laws which punish that, and penalties for it. It puts fraud of gay marriage above any other fraud involving marriage applications. It is like saying gay people should be punished more for lying on a marriage application than a straight couple. But other than that it seems it doesn't make it illegal to perform an actual gay wedding, just to get it recognized by the state through lying on the application.

    Well, now that DOMA is gone we will see these crazy things challenged. Given the national nature of the ACLU, gay rights organizations, and homosexuals it is only a matter of time before challenges to every state law pop up. The supreme court should have saved a lot of time and money and declared them all to be prejudiced and unconstitutional.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

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    It seems the law is prejudiced by nature. What is being described is covered by fraud. We already have laws which punish that, and penalties for it. It puts fraud of gay marriage above any other fraud involving marriage applications. It is like saying gay people should be punished more for lying on a marriage application than a straight couple. But other than that it seems it doesn't make it illegal to perform an actual gay wedding, just to get it recognized by the state through lying on the application.

    Well, now that DOMA is gone we will see these crazy things challenged. Given the national nature of the ACLU, gay rights organizations, and homosexuals it is only a matter of time before challenges to every state law pop up. The supreme court should have saved a lot of time and money and declared them all to be prejudiced and unconstitutional.
    However the SC had ruled, there is no changing the evil nature of an evil natured people.........................

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It seems the law is prejudiced by nature. What is being described is covered by fraud. We already have laws which punish that, and penalties for it. It puts fraud of gay marriage above any other fraud involving marriage applications. It is like saying gay people should be punished more for lying on a marriage application than a straight couple. But other than that it seems it doesn't make it illegal to perform an actual gay wedding, just to get it recognized by the state through lying on the application.
    I think the penalties are actually less severe than fraud in Indiana. In fact, I believe the way the bill changed the classifications it actually lowered the penalties from what they were. Not saying that it wasn't a dick move on their part to try to deter protesting same sex couples in this fashion, but we have to remember that sodomy was still criminalized in much the country at that point in time.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think the penalties are actually less severe than fraud in Indiana. In fact, I believe the way the bill changed the classifications it actually lowered the penalties from what they were. Not saying that it wasn't a dick move on their part to try to deter protesting same sex couples in this fashion, but we have to remember that sodomy was still criminalized in much the country at that point in time.
    The people here have psychological problems that run very deep......................I wonder who cares ?......................

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Why bother with facts when there's conservative bashing to do.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

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    Why bother with facts when there's conservative bashing to do.
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