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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Two words are used in the passage that you refer to as Leviticus 20:13 "ish" and "zachar". "If an ish (adult man) also lie with zachar (young male), as he lieth with an isha (adult woman). . . they shall surely be put to death"

    The best interpretation seems to indicate a condemnation of an adult male having sex with a male too young to be considered an adult. If the two males were both adults the word "ish" would have been a more appropriate choice than "zachar"
    Then we can look to Corinthians and Galatians, and Romans, all condemn homosexuality
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Talk about garbage in, garbage out! Homosexuality is definitely listed as a sin, just read Romans chapter one.
    I did. It does not list homosexuality as a sin. Care to elaborate on why you wrongly think it does?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Then I'm right. Like I said, the bible never says homosexuality is an abomination.
    I said the word homosexuality, and that is because the word did not exist.
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I did. It does not list homosexuality as a sin. Care to elaborate on why you wrongly think it does?
    Being heterosexual is a sin too. If you spin and twist scripture enough...you can make it work. Well, not your personally...other folks who like to do that.

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Any façade that Christians don't want Big Brother to take a hand in enforcing their "religious" proclivities just flew out the window with this law. Where are the socalled moderate Christians ? Holed up with the socalled moderate Muslims ?.........................

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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Then we can look to Corinthians and Galatians, and Romans, all condemn homosexuality
    That you are changing the subject to different passages must mean you agree with his correct interpretation of that Leviticus passage. Quote what you want from Corinthians, Galatians, and the Romans. They will just as easily be torn apart.

    A question for you: You seem so bent on defending any passage that might suggest homosexuality is sinful. What about all the other passages saying things like slavery are sinful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
    Do you agree with the Bible that slavery is morally acceptable? If not, then how dare you call yourself a Christian (your own argument, essentially).
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I said the word homosexuality, and that is because the word did not exist.
    Right, and again that passage doesn't reference the concept of homosexuality that the word describes. Again, care to elaborate on why you wrongly think it does?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Right, and again that passage doesn't reference the concept of homosexuality that the word describes. Again, care to elaborate on why you wrongly think it does?
    Homosexuality:

    : erotic activity with another of the same sex
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Homosexuality:
    That is not the definition of homosexuality being talked about here. Homosexuality also means an attraction towards the same sex, regardless of behavior. Just as the word "mouse" can refer to an animal, a device used in conjunction with a computer, or a timid person, "homosexuality" can mean more than one thing. And generally when people refer to homosexuality without referencing sexual acts, they are referring to the attraction. In other words, you are equivocating.

    Furthermore, do you agree with Leviticus 25:44-46 that slavery is acceptable? (That wasn't a rhetorical question)

    What about Leviticus 20: 9, which states that disobedience to parents should be punished by death?
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    Re: Indiana GOP passes law making it a crime for clergy to perform gay weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Homosexuality:
    Pederasty: An adult having sex with a non-adult of the same sex
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