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Natural gas well leaking in Gulf of Mexico, Coast Guard says

Fishstyx said:
Methane is not a pollutant when it comes to water. Its a gas therefore does not remain in the water unless its under tremendous pressure and very cold water then it will become a hydrate (solid). Still not a pollutant as it will not mix or diffuse into water. The sheen is caused by some crude oil thats present in the line (this well is pushing out mostly water).

Reports thus far for this leak put it about 200 bbls or less than a 1000 gallons. Natural seeps are estimated to produce nearly 42,000,000 gallons a year in the Gulf of Mexico alone which is why there is such a high presence of oil consuming bacteria and microbes. This has been occurring long before we started the "environmental apocalypse" with the invention of the wheel.

So, while this may cause some acute pollutions (minor at best as this amount will spread and dissipate rapidly), it will cause no lasting or permanent damage whatsoever.
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Oh, so you would be happy to drink water with a sheen of oil deposit on top of it? Still a pollutant, and it would seem that oil tends to be present in these wells, and I am pretty sure that is a pollutant when mixed with the water. Here is the problem with pretending something that exists doesn't. You run yourself around making excuses and doing verbal gymnastics, and all to deny reality.
 
tererun said:
Oh, so you would be happy to drink water with a sheen of oil deposit on top of it? Still a pollutant, and it would seem that oil tends to be present in these wells, and I am pretty sure that is a pollutant when mixed with the water. Here is the problem with pretending something that exists doesn't. You run yourself around making excuses and doing verbal gymnastics, and all to deny reality.
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LOL, my "excuses" and "verbal gymnastics" are based on science and fact which you clearly either don't understand or refuse to accept.

Plus, drinking a glass of seawater is bad for you whether there is a sheen present or not.
 
Fishstyx said:
It won't be a DWH spill. Couple of reasons. Its a production rig, not a exploratory rig. Set up at the well head is really different. Another, if the report is accurate and its 74 miles SW of Port Fourchon, its in shallow water (<200').

They were in the process of shutting the well down because its not producing, well was mainly pushing out water.

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Gotcha. That is good to hear. And the fact that this story hasn't made any major national headlines is good as well.
 
tererun said:
Oh, so you would be happy to drink water with a sheen of oil deposit on top of it? Still a pollutant, and it would seem that oil tends to be present in these wells, and I am pretty sure that is a pollutant when mixed with the water. Here is the problem with pretending something that exists doesn't. You run yourself around making excuses and doing verbal gymnastics, and all to deny reality.
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Ummm, you do know we're talking about natural gas here and not oil, right?
 
tererun said:
Oh, so you would be happy to drink water with a sheen of oil deposit on top of it? Still a pollutant, and it would seem that oil tends to be present in these wells, and I am pretty sure that is a pollutant when mixed with the water. Here is the problem with pretending something that exists doesn't. You run yourself around making excuses and doing verbal gymnastics, and all to deny reality.
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You drink sea water? Its a pollutant abet one that occurs naturally with great frequency.
 
Just have to mention, that water you drink from the tap? It has deer pee and fish poop in it. :mrgreen:
 
tererun said:
Nice Romney, admitting there is pollution from it, and then pretending there is not. The leak caused the same slick that you just said was not as bad as a crude slick. it is still pollution, and now you are back to trying to pretend it did not happen.
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There's no "slick". Natural gas is a gas, not a liquid.
 
Mycroft said:
Green energy isn't enough...and won't be for a long time.
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Enough solar energy strikes Texas alone to power the world. It is the control mechanism of Distributed Energy Monopolies controlling our politicians that prevents a National policy adopting 100% Green energy policies. Green Energy would create thousands/millions of jobs at local levels and monies saved would be reinvested in local economies. Is there a down side? Those Big Energy distributors collect taxes for their partner, the Gov't, and Green would cut both parties out of the loop. "That's all, folks!"
 
apdst said:
There's no "slick". Natural gas is a gas, not a liquid.
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There are "condensates" in gas wells and usually condensate tanks on wells to collect those gases that condense during wellhead production. Benzene is an example and would create a sheen like gasoline. Natural gas is "mixed methane gases" and not some pure singular gas. Wells are relatively clean, not clean.
 
DaveFagan said:
There are "condensates" in gas wells and usually condensate tanks on wells to collect those gases that condense during wellhead production. Benzene is an example and would create a sheen like gasoline. Natural gas is "mixed methane gases" and not some pure singular gas. Wells are relatively clean, not clean.
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Right, however, it's not going the create a slick like a blown out oil well would produce.

There are many different factors which would determine the amount of condesates that get released. Condesates aren't slways consisyant from resevoir to resevoir.
 
DaveFagan said:
Enough solar energy strikes Texas alone to power the world. It is the control mechanism of Distributed Energy Monopolies controlling our politicians that prevents a National policy adopting 100% Green energy policies. Green Energy would create thousands/millions of jobs at local levels and monies saved would be reinvested in local economies. Is there a down side? Those Big Energy distributors collect taxes for their partner, the Gov't, and Green would cut both parties out of the loop. "That's all, folks!"
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A "National Policy", eh? And who do you suppose would create and enforce such a policy? The Market? I don't think so, or we would be seeing more of this green energy being produced. No, such a policy can only come about if the government creates and enforces it. Then we will have what always happens when the government sticks it's nose into things that should be controlled by the Market...higher costs and lower supply. And who bears the brunt of those higher costs and lower supply? The consumer.

Do you REALLY want to place that kind of burden on the People? Just to implement your beloved "Green Energy"?

No thanks.
 
DaveFagan said:
Enough solar energy strikes Texas alone to power the world. It is the control mechanism of Distributed Energy Monopolies controlling our politicians that prevents a National policy adopting 100% Green energy policies. Green Energy would create thousands/millions of jobs at local levels and monies saved would be reinvested in local economies. Is there a down side? Those Big Energy distributors collect taxes for their partner, the Gov't, and Green would cut both parties out of the loop. "That's all, folks!"
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There is enough energy in the winds and the tides to power the world too. For energy to be effective it must not only be produced but be transmitted/transported to where the demand for it exists. Absolutely noone is stopping you from doing your fantastic "green" energy thing - flood the grid with your cheaper energy.
 
Ikari said:
I'm not against the mining and extraction of these things. But the corporations behind them need to be regulated and watched with serious consequences for breeches of security or intelligence.
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And regulation has always worked so well in the past......
 
Hicup said:
It's pollution in the same way that cow poop pollutes the grass. :)


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yep and if it wasn't for us their would not be millions of cows ****ting everywhere ;)
 
Fishstyx said:
LOL, my "excuses" and "verbal gymnastics" are based on science and fact which you clearly either don't understand or refuse to accept.

Plus, drinking a glass of seawater is bad for you whether there is a sheen present or not.
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Especially anywhere near the mouth of the Mississippi. A light sheen on the salt water would be one of my lesser worries...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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Slowly destroying our earth. Hopefully this get under control ASAP, this is the last thing the Gulf needs.
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Do you understand that natural leaks of this sort have been taking place since before Mankind even discovered oil, much less found a use for it and begun any efforts to extract it?

Mankind is not causing them, and there is nothing that Mankind can do to prevent them.

You might as well cry and whine about how we are “destroying the earth” because tornados and earthquakes and volcanoes happen.
 
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DaveFagan said:
Enough solar energy strikes Texas alone to power the world. It is the control mechanism of Distributed Energy Monopolies controlling our politicians that prevents a National policy adopting 100% Green energy policies. Green Energy would create thousands/millions of jobs at local levels and monies saved would be reinvested in local economies. Is there a down side? Those Big Energy distributors collect taxes for their partner, the Gov't, and Green would cut both parties out of the loop. "That's all, folks!"
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I think there's a very good chance that you will find the information at this link to be very useful.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I am and i realize i am. I certainly hope we invest more in green energy so we can move away from this.
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You know the sun is converting one element into another, who's to say that isn't having long term adverse effects on the solar system? How do we know that converting wind into electrical energy isn't causing some problem we haven't seen yet. Apparently it's already been shown to cause noise pollution, and the generators are creating health problems for people living near by. All energy is basically converting one form into another.
 
SMTA said:
And regulation has always worked so well in the past......
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If we abide by them instead of having cocaine and hooker parties for the regulators. When I say regulation, I don't mean in name only.
 
tererun said:
yes, but we know that it emits pollution into the water, and that this one is not naturally occurring. Contrary to the odd notion you guys seem to be spouting, just because it comes from nature doesn't mean it is healthy to humans, and that it is not pollution. The earth does spout plenty of poisons and there is no reason we need to help it along.
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And I think everyone agrees with that in general (conservatives aren't for destroying the planet as we're painted to be), but this is a relative non-story.
 
Erod said:
And I think everyone agrees with that in general (conservatives aren't for destroying the planet as we're painted to be), but this is a relative non-story.
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It is a complete non story, it just fits the liberal media agenda so it get thrown out there to upset people that know nothing about energy sources.
 
Ikari said:
If we abide by them instead of having cocaine and hooker parties for the regulators. When I say regulation, I don't mean in name only.
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Historically, the regulatory agencies are as corrupt and inept as the industries they are supposed to be controlling.
 
SMTA said:
Historically, the regulatory agencies are as corrupt and inept as the industries they are supposed to be controlling.
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I agree, I didn't mean to make it appear as if I was contending that point. They have been very corrupt and because of it we haven't realized much in the way of actual regulation. Still, it is necessary to have it in order to ensure proper and safe operation.
 
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