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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    It more shows that the Republicans are at least holding up the Liberal Agenda in destroying America. It's a start in stopping Obama and his cronies.

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    Without commenting on the bill itself, this move by Boehner seems like a very bad idea for the Republican party. This will turn into Republicans "obstructing" a high profile bi-partisan passed piece of legislation from the Senate which, fair or not, will allow Democrats to further push the narrative that Republicans only care about old white men.

    Stuff like fascinates me with the inner workings of the Republican party. Is Boehner making this decision alone? Was this the Republicans plan all along? Is Boehner bowing to constituent pressure or pressure from House members. I think it'd be interesting to know the wheeling and dealing going on right now in the Republican party.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    It more shows that the Republicans are at least holding up the Liberal Agenda in destroying America. It's a start in stopping Obama and his cronies.
    apparently boehner is not a effective leader because he cannot get a farm bill passed because some conservatives believe it does not cut food stamps benefits enough.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

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    apparently boehner is not a effective leader because he cannot get a farm bill passed because some conservatives believe it does not cut food stamps benefits enough.
    The farm bill is a monstrosity that would never get passed piecemeal. Thats the problem---if you break a bill down into pieces and 80% of it wont get passed, why are we lumping it into one bill so 100% of it gets passed?

    Same for the immigration bill Zyph, Obama wants it all passed together so he can give the carrots and burn the sticks.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    And? Anything to stop unconstitutional actions are welcome. Even if they are ineffective, the thought and action is there.
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    apparently boehner is not a effective leader because he cannot get a farm bill passed because some conservatives believe it does not cut food stamps benefits enough.
    "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Without commenting on the bill itself, this move by Boehner seems like a very bad idea for the Republican party. This will turn into Republicans "obstructing" a high profile bi-partisan passed piece of legislation from the Senate which, fair or not, will allow Democrats to further push the narrative that Republicans only care about old white men.

    Stuff like fascinates me with the inner workings of the Republican party. Is Boehner making this decision alone? Was this the Republicans plan all along? Is Boehner bowing to constituent pressure or pressure from House members. I think it'd be interesting to know the wheeling and dealing going on right now in the Republican party.
    Most of them are in "safe" districts meaning that the Republican is all but assured winning the election. That being the case, the thing they have to fear most is a primary challenge from the right. So going hard to the right takes that out of the picture, thus practically ensuring their re-election. They don't have to win a national race, they just have to hold on to their districts.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The farm bill is a monstrosity that would never get passed piecemeal. Thats the problem---if you break a bill down into pieces and 80% of it wont get passed, why are we lumping it into one bill so 100% of it gets passed?

    Same for the immigration bill Zyph, Obama wants it all passed together so he can give the carrots and burn the sticks.
    if it was split into pieces, the Food stamp cuts would die a slow death of being pidgin holed in the senate. besides boehner would not dare separate the farm bill into peices, because he will draw the wrath of the conservatives for not including the draconian cuts they want and also draw the wrath of the agricultural buissness and their allies in congress who actually want a deal done.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    And? Anything to stop unconstitutional actions are welcome. Even if they are ineffective, the thought and action is there.
    as a great president once said

    In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
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    Boehner is guilty of the sin of doing nothing.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    as a great president once said



    Boehner is guilty of the sin of doing nothing.
    Actually, I think he is doing the right thing.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    The thing about defeating a bill via not holding a vote is that it gives a bad impression. Refusing to vote makes the public feel like congress isn't doing its job. Their job is to vote. Filibusters are methods to avoid doing their job. Blocking votes are methods to avoid doing their job. Defeating a bill by voting it down has the same effect, but involves congress actually doing the job they've been hired to do. House Republicans would be facing less backlash if they'd actually voted on the bill and defeated it.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    It more shows that the Republicans are at least holding up the Liberal Agenda in destroying America. It's a start in stopping Obama and his cronies.
    Otherwise known as 'The American People".


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