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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill - Ginger Gibson - POLITICO.com

    And we are back to the Republican house holding everything up again. Back to the good ol do nothing congress.. [/FONT][/COLOR]



    Not wishing any hard luck on the GOP, but I believe that if they don't get the job done, they will pay a price.

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Boehner is simply helping to ratify his parties already signed death warrant.
    Plenty of leftist keep making this claim so on face value I'd say the opposite would be closer to the truth.

    Lets do a quick review.
    White House-run by a leftist now and will next time as well unless the GOP runs a conservative candidate.
    Senate-run by a leftist now but things might change next year. Looks better and better everyday for the GOP.
    House-run by the GOP. It ain't changing unless they pass this bill.

    By the time Obama is out of office those that have told lie after lie supporting his every incompetent move will be out of breath. And whoever it is from the -ist party that runs for President is by default going to be carrying a lot of his dead weight. That being 8 years of a bad economy, 8 years of record unemployment, 8 years of record deficits, Obamacare and the lack of healthcare that goes with it, 8 years of disastrous foreign policy,and on and on.

    Just a few short years ago, when the -ists took our freedom away and passed Obamacare in the middle of the night, in backroom deals and by a budget bill that nobody read, that too was supposed to be the end of the GOP. Then the next election came along and it didn't happen that way as people capable of thought or those that do not want to create a permanent underclass in America, voted against the -ists. The -ists lost control of the House.
    Of course the GOP did do something stupid by running Romney for President as conservatives backed him but not completely and the issue of Romneycare in Mass. was a big one. Dumb on their part.

    So right now, I'd say it's anybody's game for President , next time around.

    But lets also look at the state level. GOP has a lot of governor's. GOP controls a lot of legislatures. Lot of GOP mayors out there. So just who is it, besides a bunch of wishful thinkers that are silly enough to think they can repeat that bogus phrase and get them to pass that immigration criminal amnesty bill?

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the republicans have been in the house for over 2 1/2 years, and you believe that everything that they have ever sent to the senate was voted on?

    just as one party does something, so does the other party, neither one are different.
    where does it say in the constitution that the senate and house is required to give every piece of legislation a up or down vote?

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Plenty of leftist keep making this claim so on face value I'd say the opposite would be closer to the truth.

    Lets do a quick review.
    White House-run by a leftist now and will next time as well unless the GOP runs a conservative candidate.
    Senate-run by a leftist now but things might change next year. Looks better and better everyday for the GOP.
    House-run by the GOP. It ain't changing unless they pass this bill.
    Because of two factors
    1- off year elections are more favorable to republicans than presidential elections due to lower Democratic turnout
    2- horribly gerrymandered districts all over the nation due Republican control of the last redistricting

    I agree that there is a very good chance the Republicans will take the Senate next year and hold the House.

    I will also bet a hell of a lot of money that the Dems take the White House next election and for the foreseeable future. Eventually, perhaps in three or four more off year election cycles, those demographic time bombs will explode for the Republicans and the gerrymandering of 2010 will not even save them any more.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Because of two factors
    1- off year elections are more favorable to republicans than presidential elections due to lower Democratic turnout
    2- horribly gerrymandered districts all over the nation due Republican control of the last redistricting

    I agree that there is a very good chance the Republicans will take the Senate next year and hold the House.

    I will also bet a hell of a lot of money that the Dems take the White House next election and for the foreseeable future. Eventually, perhaps in three or four more off year election cycles, those demographic time bombs will explode for the Republicans and the gerrymandering of 2010 will not even save them any more.
    Anything to see that asshole Harry Reid gone.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The thing about defeating a bill via not holding a vote is that it gives a bad impression. Refusing to vote makes the public feel like congress isn't doing its job. Their job is to vote. Filibusters are methods to avoid doing their job. Blocking votes are methods to avoid doing their job. Defeating a bill by voting it down has the same effect, but involves congress actually doing the job they've been hired to do. House Republicans would be facing less backlash if they'd actually voted on the bill and defeated it.
    No, this is not the legislatives job. Their job is to do what is best for the US of A. That is their primary...and pretty much ONLY...responsibility. If that means not holding up a P.O.S. bill to vote because it is a P.O.S. bill is doing thier job.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Anything to see that asshole Harry Reid gone.
    love to see what you will think when democrats filibuster every piece of legislation the republicans want passed?

    you know the old saying: "what goes around comes around"

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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    See, that's the issue OC.

    The "Carrots", other than simply being able to stya here, can't legally be enacted BY THIS LAW without the "Sticks" occuring. It would take an entirely new law amending this one to allow the end game "carrots" of a green card to occur without the sticks happening.
    Don't believe that for one second. There are a couple of ways in which our government can ignore the sticks. All quite legal dontcha know.

    1: Obama can pass an executive order bypassing those sticks. Don't believe me? He is currently giving green cards to illegal aliens right now instead of deporting them like the law says to do.

    2: Our legislative branch can sneak in some clause in a totally un-related bill that can abolish those sticks with none the wiser until it is too late. After all, its already been proven that our elected officials don't even read what is put before them before they vote on it. And its been proven that they will do that very thing.

    3: Have their lawyers find loop holes.
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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, at least you're consistent. Any time the House and the Senate don't agree on something, you immediately accuse the House of being obstuctionist or do nothing. Have you ever posted a thread about the do nothing, obstructionist Senate under Harry Reid?
    Yes: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-lead-e-p.html


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    Re: John Boehner: No House vote on Senate immigration bill

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Because of two factors
    1- off year elections are more favorable to republicans than presidential elections due to lower Democratic turnout
    2- horribly gerrymandered districts all over the nation due Republican control of the last redistricting

    I agree that there is a very good chance the Republicans will take the Senate next year and hold the House.

    I will also bet a hell of a lot of money that the Dems take the White House next election and for the foreseeable future. Eventually, perhaps in three or four more off year election cycles, those demographic time bombs will explode for the Republicans and the gerrymandering of 2010 will not even save them any more.
    I think viewing things through just the lens of race is going to sooner or later turn out to be a huge mistake for the -ist party. That will happen either when the well runs dry from the government trough or when people finally see it for what it is. That of course being when groups of people finally get tired of being told they are not smart enough, not good enough or just can't make it because of something that happened years and years ago. And that's all the Dems offer.

    Am I supposed to think that Democrats don't use gerrymandering? I don't and won't with reason.

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